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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2017, 02:34:30 PM »

Final answer I'm going with will be 9x8 ; I knew something was up  Smiley

https://a4-klub.pl/topic/349126-18t-avj-audi-b6-quattro-plany-na-300km/

They had same conclusion as well...
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2017, 06:12:11 PM »

Updated as of recent feeling like I should have some sort of version control going  Smiley

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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2017, 10:39:28 AM »

thanks for this  Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2017, 07:28:34 AM »

Final answer I'm going with will be 9x8 ; I knew something was up  :)https://a4-klub.pl/topic/349126-18t-avj-audi-b6-quattro-plany-na-300km/They had same conclusion as well...

Excuse me, is there KRKTE 0280156102, TVUB, FKKVS

Very, very grateful
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2017, 07:37:12 AM »

Excuse me, is there KRKTE 0280156102, TVUB, FKKVS

Very, very grateful

Indeed there is; feel free to add on as you push through your project  Smiley

Not sure what you mean after KRKTE the numbers is that a injector part number?
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2017, 12:42:53 AM »

Hi
Thanks for sharing this.

I found few map that i think is not correct.
FWNMOT should be RPM not ms. not sure is 680rpm right?
FFLDZ looks weird. IT should be coil dwell time.
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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2017, 07:19:53 AM »

Indeed there is; feel free to add on as you push through your project  Smiley

Not sure what you mean after KRKTE the numbers is that a injector part number?


0280156102 is the injector number
Injector type    OE NR.   Type   "Info production stop
(status 01.2008)"   Resistance (Ohm)   Test medium   Operating pressure (kPa)   Q-stat (at operating pressure) (g/min)   Q-stat with 300 kPa (g/min)   Q-stat with 300 kPa (ml/min)   q-dyn with 300 kPa, ti 2,5 ms (g/1000 Imp.)   Spray type   "Spray angle alfa-50
(for 2 beam)"   "Spray angle alfa-80
(for cone-characteristic)"   axial deviation angle (spray bent angle)   Spray orientation angle   Spray distribution (area, spray amount)   allowed fuels   Version, type   Electrical connector   locating lug (anti rotation device)   hydr. connection to manifold   hydr. connection to fuel rail    "Distance between O-rings
(O-Ring to O-Ring)"   Total length
0280156102   0 280 156 102   EV 6      12   Heptan   380   349   310.1   443   9.77   E   15°   ¤   0°   90°   8°-20°¤>35%   E85   Design 96   Jetronic   180°   O-Ring standard   O-Ring standard   48.4   61


I want the TVUB and FKKVS for the aum 1.8T engine



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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2018, 08:03:15 PM »

Adding latest definition as of now.
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2019, 10:43:21 AM »

I've been recently adding more tables to xdf and making revisions figured I'd post here with follow ups on file as defining goes.

Validation of tables is welcome as well as additions.


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I will be attaching latest definition here. Please if anyone discovers errors or finds additional tables please add to this thread.
As of resent I believe I have had success getting the 5120 hack working correctly. There is a patch that can be applied to make a stock file support 4Bar MAP just be sure to amend the appropriate changes to KFLDIMX so boost PID behaves as anticipated. Also there is a seperate 5120 xdf.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2019, 01:36:12 AM »

BlkSerialKilla thanks for the update!

5120 XDF Questions
1.  Is the part number for the 4Bar MAP sensor 03K906051?
2.  Based on other 5120 files the patch did not update the following:
FHOKH   - Set to 0
ZDSU   - Sqrt and multiply by 2
KFLDIOPU   - Divide axis by 2
LDEIAO   - Divide by 2
LDEIAP   - Divide by 2
FRLFSDP   - Divide axis by 2
3. Think axis name of KFDLULS should be renamed to KLDLUL
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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2019, 09:37:06 PM »

BlkSerialKilla thanks for the update!

5120 XDF Questions
1.  Is the part number for the 4Bar MAP sensor 03K906051?
2.  Based on other 5120 files the patch did not update the following:
FHOKH   - Set to 0
ZDSU   - Sqrt and multiply by 2
KFLDIOPU   - Divide axis by 2
LDEIAO   - Divide by 2
LDEIAP   - Divide by 2
FRLFSDP   - Divide axis by 2
3. Think axis name of KFDLULS should be renamed to KLDLUL

0281006060 was the one I got which cross references to 03K906051; 0281006059 would work as well from what I read on forum and seen online it just means one is bosch vs vw part designation. Also my sensor came with a larger rubber adapter that would fit larger holes for the sensor which I didn't need but good to hang on to; if it's not offered with the sensor you get as long as you are using the same OE sensor now you would be fine for at least 1.8t A4 B6 (I'm unaware of any variations atm though).

FHOKH I ended up dividing by two based on the definition nyet commented about and shared in 5120 thread.

ZDSU the precision of the constant after doing the math for the new value "sqrt(3)*2" doesn't hold up and rounds down from 3.46 to 3. Also went ahead and added KFLDIOPU to the patch as it was missing.

LDEIAO was left untouched due to original value being -10 which is 0xFF signed 8bit which is can't go any further negative if multiplied by 2.

LDEIAP should have changed from 30 to 10 0xFD to 0xFF it lacks precision to use 15 as the correct value. FRLFSDP's hpa axis should have been divided I have it defined I'm going to run the patch on a stock bin again and check it out though. Thank you for catching these  Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2019, 04:44:39 PM »

ZDSU the precision of the constant after doing the math for the new value "sqrt(3)*2" doesn't hold up and rounds down from 3.46 to 3.

Even worse depending on the ORI (either greater than 4 or less than 4) it will do different things
Mbox is 6, sqrt(6)*2 = 4.8
Bisches file is 3, sqrt(3)*2 = 3.5

In once case, it is a decrease, in the other, it is an increase.

If we are halving the signal, I would expect half the change vs time, so we would need a lower time constant than stock, either way.

For reference
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3027.msg97858#msg97858
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=2747.msg29578#msg29578
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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2019, 07:49:58 PM »

FHOKH I ended up dividing by two based on the definition nyet commented about and shared in 5120 thread.

I'm not sure that makes sense. It seems to be a ratio as others have pointed out, and unfortunately it doesn't seem to exist in the FR.
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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2019, 05:44:17 AM »

I've been recently adding more tables to xdf and making revisions figured I'd post here with follow ups on file as defining goes.

Validation of tables is welcome as well as additions.


Edit:

I will be attaching latest definition here. Please if anyone discovers errors or finds additional tables please add to this thread.
As of resent I believe I have had success getting the 5120 hack working correctly. There is a patch that can be applied to make a stock file support 4Bar MAP just be sure to amend the appropriate changes to KFLDIMX so boost PID behaves as anticipated. Also there is a seperate 5120 xdf.

By far the most defined xdf I've seen for the 518AK file.  Thank you for sharing!
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2019, 03:48:23 PM »

Went for a quick/easy drive with the 5120 changes (stock sensor and tune), anything I should be looking for?  Drove good! Grin

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