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« on: July 02, 2018, 09:26:14 PM »
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Hi, I have Touareg 2007 with 3.6l v6 patrol and I want try to change values on it. I have experience with tuning, ecumaster and haltech.. I don’t know if it similar but every tip Will be welcome;) My question is what I need to buy firstly?
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2018, 10:17:34 PM »
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software to read and write, kess does ths good, im sure mpps would do the job too. youll need winols for editing and youll need to be good at finding maps or buy damos because as far as i know no public damos exist besides one i made and postd on the vr6 24v page on facebook. youll need to have a good understand on how motronic works, youll need to have a tool to update checksums too
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 04:41:25 AM »
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Thanks Marty If I understand right for the start I need: Software to read/write is kess or mpps. Software to edit is winols. (Is this free?)
I’m not sure about the cable, I need Ross tech or 409.1 is good?
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 05:48:02 AM »
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Thanks Marty If I understand right for the start I need: Software to read/write is kess or mpps. Software to edit is winols. (Is this free?)
I’m not sure about the cable, I need Ross tech or 409.1 is good?
Nope nothing is free on this one. No free software to read and write. The cable you have won't even connect to this car because it's can not k line. Winols is 1200 euros and like I said you'll need damos too. Kess will do checksums tho
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 06:16:35 AM »
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Ok I’ll check with it for prices. Sorry but I not understand what is mean damos and checksums. My English is not so good;)
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 06:26:47 AM »
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Ok I’ll check with it for prices. Sorry but I not understand what is mean damos and checksums. My English is not so good;)
Damos are map packs. A glossary of map addresses with map offsets that make sense of the raw binary. Otherwise it looks like the matrix and will be near impossible for you to edit, even more so of you've never done anything with motronics. When you modify bits in the file you need to update checksums, checksums are used to verify ligetimacy of the data by the ecu. If you change bits and do not update checksum you'll brick the ecu
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2018, 07:15:26 AM »
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Thanks Marty
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2018, 07:16:54 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2018, 05:52:33 AM »
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Is a Ross tech cable good?
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2018, 07:22:54 AM »
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For logging, clearing fault codes etc. yes, but not for reading/writing.
You need something like e.g. a Kess or MPPS cable as already mentioned. Your ECU is not compatible with the Nefmoto software.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2018, 01:36:33 AM »
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There are loads of threads based on this. Use the search and you will find your answers.
There are many ways for read and write, as Beaviz already mentioned you can use Kess, MPPS or Galetto. Altough the original of these are pretty expensive you can start with a clone just to get started.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2018, 04:11:21 AM »
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Can I use a 409 cable though?
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2018, 07:18:46 AM »
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Can I use a 409 cable though?
There are people who got this working with FTDI drivers, but mine never did it. I use MPPS v13 clone atm, which does the trick for me so far. Although I use this 409 cable for logging with ME7Logger.
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