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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2019, 12:19:33 PM »

+1 for Dan, true post.
Hopefully, people will start listening as despite people like Johan saying the above it still gets ignored and people wonder why they have issues!

Anyway the AEM 3.5 and 5 bar sensors work ok, there is also another 5bar sensor that works I don't have the details on and the MPX absolute sensor can be made to work as well .

I've also got a few other 4 bar map sensors which claim to read low enough but I've not had a chance to test or even think they will!

Fact is if you're going to spend the money on getting over 2.2bar and c540bhp then the £150 for the AEM is small price to pay really.

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2019, 12:25:59 AM »


This works perfect with mpx 4 bar sensor.
But quite Some work.


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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2019, 12:55:39 AM »

This works perfect with mpx 4 bar sensor.
But quite Some work.


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so, my idea worked?  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2019, 01:03:44 AM »

so, my idea worked?  Wink
Yes perfectly! Thanks.


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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2019, 01:38:21 AM »

Yes perfectly! Thanks.


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great. guess i will install the test sensor in to my own car.  Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2019, 03:46:16 PM »

nice proper oem function here.  Cool
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2019, 04:53:51 PM »

I always linearized 4bar map sensor in every car I tuned starting from 215 mv and I never had any issue. Even my 4 bar bosch PUT sensor in my Leon Cupra 290 stage3 I made linearization this way and it works perfectly. Anyway if they needed to use a different 3 bar map sensor for the intake manifold (100-3000 mbar) instead the normal 3 bar map sensor (200-3000 mbar) upstream throttle, maybe 215 mv could not be enough...
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2019, 03:09:48 AM »

I always linearized 4bar map sensor in every car I tuned starting from 215 mv and I never had any issue.
So you never tuned the fuel trims and timing right in a single one of these cars, well done.
These sensors do not show plausible values below 500 mV, it's been tested and confirmed using a vac source, end of story.

The 4 bar Bosch sensors are 500 - 4500 mV in every single stock file. 500 mV for 500 mbar and 4500 mV for 4000 mbar.
The "215" curve is some made up bullshit by someone, then posted over and over on some forums.

If you need to measure below 500 mbar (and on a 2.0T in the intake manifold you do), then this sensor is not suitable.
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2020, 10:34:10 AM »

so, my idea worked?  Wink

What idea is that ?
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2022, 02:27:36 AM »

Hi guys,

To those who care: There are sensor out there which are capable to sens pressures between 105hPa to 3980hPa.

They have also NTC integrated which behaves exactly like stock map sensor.

Perfectly suiting for simo18 cars. With almost 100% OEM lock. Find picture attached.

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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2022, 04:05:42 AM »

Just use 4Bar PUT sensor and 3Bar MAP sensor up to 2.2bar boost pressure and it will be absolutely ok!
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2022, 05:55:13 AM »

Just use 4Bar PUT sensor and 3Bar MAP sensor up to 2.2bar boost pressure and it will be absolutely ok!

It’s up to you, using a sensor out of his specification / datasheet.

If you want to drive 3.2 bar and you have an overshoot ECU will not recognize this.

10% margin on to you target is needed from my opinion
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2022, 12:20:29 PM »

Just use 4Bar PUT sensor and 3Bar MAP sensor up to 2.2bar boost pressure and it will be absolutely ok!

Seems you have no idea what you wrote here....... Lazy google bit more?
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2022, 03:39:30 PM »

Just use 4Bar PUT sensor and 3Bar MAP sensor up to 2.2bar boost pressure and it will be absolutely ok!

Please don't post stuff like this.
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2022, 03:54:16 PM »

Hi guys,

To those who care: There are sensor out there which are capable to sens pressures between 105hPa to 3980hPa.

They have also NTC integrated which behaves exactly like stock map sensor.

Perfectly suiting for simo18 cars. With almost 100% OEM lock. Find picture attached.

BR

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