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	Audi A4 B5 cluster swap VCDS: Channel 50 not available « on: March 29, 2020, 02:38:50 PM »

Hey there

I am having an issue with a cluster swap on my Audi A4 B5 MY 2000.
I was having issues with the original cluster (known problem of lights going on/off, needles going up/down...). I decided to buy a new cluster off ebay. I managed to pull the pins for both the old and new cluster with VAGTacho. I then tried to use VCDS to do the swap but when I try to put in the original Immo PIN into the replacement cluster through 21-Adaptation, I am getting an "Error Channel 50 not available" whch prevents me from completing the swap. FYI, the engine starts and runs fine with the original cluster but when the replacement cluster, the immobilizer light flashes.
Would you know what I am doing wrong?
in the following post, the Autoscan of the original and replacement clusters. As well, the measuring blocks for the orginal+replacement clusters.

Thanks for the help


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	Re: Audi A4 B5 cluster swap VCDS: Channel 50 not available « Reply #1 on: March 29, 2020, 02:39:30 PM »

Error message:

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Adaptation Channel 050:
Stored value
  ERROR:
  Channel 50
  Not
  Available

Original cluster AUTOSCAN

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Sunday,29,March,2020,17:49:14:00007
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0

VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX License Plate:

Chassis Type: XX (8D - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B5 (1995 > 2002))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77

VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Mileage: 226290km-140610miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-AJM.lbl
   Part No: 038 906 019 AN
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 1301
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 63C5198DF155BF52A8-4B18

1 Fault Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
   P1570 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0 0 X X X

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-111-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 614 111
   Component: ABS/ASR 5.3 FRONT D00
   Coding: 00012
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 53A5C94DA1F54FD238-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8D0-820-043-1D.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 820 043 N
   Component: A4 KLIMAAUTOMAT D58
   Coding: 00043
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 2B55B1ADD905371250-25A4

7 Faults Found:
00787 - Temperature Sensor in Fresh Air intake duct (G89)
   30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00603 - Footwell/defroster Flap Positioning Motor (V85)
   41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70)
   41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
   41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2)
   17-10 - Control Difference - Intermittent
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
   27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01582 - Signal for Coolant Temperature
   30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 959 655 J
   Component: Airbag Front+Seite 1001
   Coding: 00104
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 3D718FF53771A9A2FE-5178

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
   07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 920 900 M
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 D51
   Coding: 00040
   Shop #: WSC 00000
   VCID: 2D51BFB5E71139224E-4B18
   XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX AUZ5Z0Y6074095

10 Faults Found:
01039 - Coolant Temperature Sensor (G2)
   30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G)
   30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00667 - Ambient Temperature Signal
   30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
   30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01128 - Immobilizer Pickup Coil (D2)
   35-10 - - - Intermittent
01177 - Engine Control Unit
   64-10 - Not Currently Testable - Intermittent
01176 - Key
   07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
   30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
   53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
   49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels:. 8D0-862-257.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 862 257 B
   Component: ZV-Pumpe, Funk D16
   Coding: 14913
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 2C57B2B1DC0B302A59-4F02

6 Faults Found:
01367 - Central Locking Pump Run Time Exceeded (Likely Leak)
   35-00 - -
01365 - Lock/Unlock Switch; Interior
   29-00 - Short to Ground
01389 - Tailgate Open Switch (F124)
   29-00 - Short to Ground
00991 - Interior Lights
   28-00 - Short to Plus
00955 - Key 1
   09-00 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed
00956 - Key 2
   09-00 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8D0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 035 186 E
   Component: Radio 0001
   Coding: 00201
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 224B5C89AECFF65AE3-4B00

1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
   07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:18)--------------------------

Original cluster measuring blocks:

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Address 17: Instruments (8D0 920 900 M)

17:42:55 Group 022: Immobilizer I
   1 Engine Start permitted
   0 Engine (ECU) responds
   1 Key Status
   4 Number of adapted Keys

17:42:55 Group 023: Immobilizer II
   1 Variable Code authorized
   0 Key Status (Transponder)
   1 Fixed Code authorized
  6.0 Immobilizer Status

17:42:55 Group 024: Immobilizer III (Lock Time)
  0.0 Lock-Time Instrument Cluster
  0.0 Lock-Time Engine (ECU)
  0.0 Lock-Time Emergency Unlock
  0.0 Lock-Time Transponder


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	Re: Audi A4 B5 cluster swap VCDS: Channel 50 not available « Reply #2 on: March 29, 2020, 02:40:44 PM »

Replacement cluster AUTOSCAN

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Sunday,29,March,2020,17:18:26:00007
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0

VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX License Plate:

Chassis Type: XX (8D - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B5 (1995 > 2002))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77

VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-AJM.lbl
   Part No: 038 906 019 AN
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 1301
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 63C5198DF155BF52A8-4B18

1 Fault Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
   P1570 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0 0 X X X

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-111-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 3B0 614 111
   Component: ABS/ASR 5.3 FRONT D00
   Coding: 00012
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 53A5C94DA1F54FD238-515A

1 Fault Found:
01203 - Electrical Connection between ABS and Instrument Cluster
   31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8D0-820-043-1D.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 820 043 N
   Component: A4 KLIMAAUTOMAT D58
   Coding: 00043
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 2B55B1ADD905371250-25AA

7 Faults Found:
00787 - Temperature Sensor in Fresh Air intake duct (G89)
   30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00603 - Footwell/defroster Flap Positioning Motor (V85)
   41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70)
   41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
   41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2)
   17-10 - Control Difference - Intermittent
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
   27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01582 - Signal for Coolant Temperature
   30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 959 655 J
   Component: Airbag Front+Seite 1001
   Coding: 00104
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 3D718FF53771A9A2FE-5178

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
   07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 920 900 M
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 D56
   Coding: 00060
   Shop #: WSC 39527
   VCID: 2D51BFB5E71139224E-4B00
   XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX AUZ5Z0E0257036

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels:. 8D0-862-257.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 862 257 B
   Component: ZV-Pumpe, Funk D16
   Coding: 14913
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 2C57B2B1DC0B302A59-4F1E

6 Faults Found:
01367 - Central Locking Pump Run Time Exceeded (Likely Leak)
   35-00 - -
01365 - Lock/Unlock Switch; Interior
   29-00 - Short to Ground
01389 - Tailgate Open Switch (F124)
   29-00 - Short to Ground
00991 - Interior Lights
   28-00 - Short to Plus
00955 - Key 1
   09-00 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed
00956 - Key 2
   09-00 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 8D0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 035 186 E
   Component: Radio 0001
   Coding: 00201
   Shop #: WSC 06435
   VCID: 224B5C89AECFF65AE3-4B00

1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
   07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:22)--------------------------

Replacement cluster Measuring blocks:

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Address 17: Instruments (8D0 920 900 M)

22:51:41 Group 022: Immobilizer I
   0 Engine Start permitted
   1 Engine (ECU) responds
   1 Key Status
   2 Number of adapted Keys

22:51:41 Group 023: Immobilizer II
   0 Variable Code authorized
   0 Key Status (Transponder)
   0 Fixed Code authorized
  6.0 Immobilizer Status

22:51:41 Group 024: Immobilizer III (Lock Time)
  0.0 Lock-Time Instrument Cluster
  0.0 Lock-Time Engine (ECU)
  0.0 Lock-Time Emergency Unlock
  0.0 Lock-Time Transponder


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	Re: Audi A4 B5 cluster swap VCDS: Channel 50 not available « Reply #3 on: March 30, 2020, 03:45:40 PM »

I was following Immo3 cluster swap procedure when my cluster is Immo2. I was convinced my cluster was Immo3 but apparently not. So after following Immo2 steps, everything works well. Problem solved.

Immobilizer II Immobilizer Swapping (Instrument Cluster)
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_II_Immobilizer_Swapping_(Instrument_Cluster)


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