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quattro85
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« on: August 11, 2020, 01:58:33 PM »

Today I met a friend of mine, that I wasn't saw for years.
Now he has nice looking white Rocco with big black wheels, big dual RS4 style tail pipes and s.o.

While I was looking at the car (I really like the model), he told me that the car is remapped, and the sound of this exhaust is superb! (He bought the car like this).
But there is one problem - on idle there is a lot of raw gasoline smell, and tailpipes are quite diesel like.

Of course I suggested O2 sensor replacement, but he told me that they changed it few months ago and there was absolutely no change.
This make me curious, and I take my laptop Smiley

And I can't believe on my eyes....


I really can't understand how it is possible to achieve this only by remapping this car.
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2020, 01:15:11 AM »

possibly boost leak
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2020, 06:25:04 AM »

These cars does not have a maf-sensor, so boost leak should not cause such problem. If it´s really problem from tuning maybe linearization from fuel pressure sensor or map sensor was changed. Map sensor is also for fuel calculation. These cars have 2 other boost sensors...
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2020, 03:49:32 PM »

possibly boost leak

No way!
As cherry said there is no MAF sensor on 1.4TSI . There is MAP sensor before throttle body, and another one after. Basically there is measured (not calculated) manifold intake pressure.

As for any kind of leaks.. if you have such huge boost leak in order to have such huge multiplicative trim, sure there should be underfueling on idle (unmetered air will be ingested trough the same hole that boost will exit). So there should be positive additive trim.

In this case we have huge overfueling on idle and the only reason will be much bigger injectors without necessarily adjustments. But as I know injectors are stock ones Sad

Anyway I'll ask him to drive a little bit some evening so I can get more data also under load.
But it seems that best thing to do is to get my odis-e and to reflash it with stock file.

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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2020, 03:47:48 AM »

If there is nothing mechanically wrong, then maybe someone fucked with the MAP sensor scaling for some reason.
Or someone fitted the wrong sensor to it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2020, 01:33:13 PM »

Ok.
Today I take the car for a ride.

It is nice looking pig Sad

My single charged 1.4tfsi A3 sportback is a much more fun to drive.

MAP sensor looks to be correct one, according part number from ETKA.
And it seems to be ok - I can see something like 900-910mbar on switched off engine and this is good estimation for the altitude that I live.

I noticed some strange things while I was driving.
There is plenty of popcorn sound on decel while I was driving downhill. And while there is a lot of pops and bangs, on VCDS it looks like injection timing (channel 002) is completely 0.00ms. and while it is showing 0.00ms injection timing there was lambda close to 1 instead of more than 1.2 ( I don't know where the maximum of lambda probe is).

Another strange thing was that on WOT run the car refuse to go WOT Smiley
What I mean is that I can see a lot of load request (more than 200), actual load was not even close (slightly more than 160), N75 is at 100%, but throttle was between 70-80%.
Why there is such strange behaviour?
Why there is huge under boosting condition but there isn't 100% throttle.


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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2020, 02:41:43 AM »

This morning I decide to check injection timing on idle - it was ridiculously low something like 0.26ms, and still the car was flooded with fuel (lambda 0.77 on idle).

After that I checked that by part number injectors for twincharged and single charged 1.4tsi are the same.
Ok! So I checked injection time of my A3, and it was 0.77ms on idle.

It looks like that someone changed  injectors of this car, or something is very wrong with reported injection times in VCDS.

Unfortunately I can't read current file of the ECU so I can take a look of the current file to try identify what they messed with.
I can only write original software or to put my modification on virtual read file.

Regards,
Chris

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2020, 03:51:33 AM »

Maybe some bad pop&bang attempt done. There are also some automatic tools for this simple thing which make big nonsense changes. Better restore car back to original file...
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