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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2021, 07:59:35 AM »

You need to bootmode flash a valid bin into it now.
You removed the riser, and resoldered the chip. Now the chip has the lines scrambled, so the software inside is trash.

Use a tool in bootmode to flash a valid bin on it, and your ECU should boot.

I am new to this, so please bear with:



I assume I need to flash a stock bin on for example (4B0907551G https://files.s4wiki.com/stock/ )
or 8D0-551L as Nyet recommended in an earlier post.
Which has the Hitachi MAF too, see pic from S4Wiki.

However what program should I use to flash it? NefMotoECUFlasher? or is there a CMD based program?
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2021, 08:41:16 AM »

However what program should I use to flash it? NefMotoECUFlasher? or is there a CMD based program?

Normally I would get mad and say to search, but this is legitimately confusing anymore.

http://nefmoto.com/wiki/index.php/ECU_Boot_Mode is sort of a start, but also confusing.

Unfortunately ME7 bootmode was never finished in Nef (although some parts of the user interface have the beginnings of an implementation, which is VERY confusing for people).

Galletto is the most popular tool for this, or MPPS clone.

You can find Galletto info here: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3088.0
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2021, 09:00:34 AM »

Normally I would get mad and say to search, but this is legitimately confusing anymore.

http://nefmoto.com/wiki/index.php/ECU_Boot_Mode is sort of a start, but also confusing.

Unfortunately ME7 bootmode was never finished in Nef (although some parts of the user interface have the beginnings of an implementation, which is VERY confusing for people).

Galletto is the most popular tool for this, or MPPS clone.

You can find Galletto info here: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3088.0

Thanks, I have done Boot Mode with a SAAB ecu, and had to build a Just4Trionic combi interface, so understand there are various ways of going about it.

Please know that I shall do/ have done searches for these, but it is a little difficult when you are a green noob!

Cheers
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2021, 02:56:44 AM »

Normally I would get mad and say to search, but this is legitimately confusing anymore.

http://nefmoto.com/wiki/index.php/ECU_Boot_Mode is sort of a start, but also confusing.

Unfortunately ME7 bootmode was never finished in Nef (although some parts of the user interface have the beginnings of an implementation, which is VERY confusing for people).

Galletto is the most popular tool for this, or MPPS clone.

You can find Galletto info here: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3088.0

Okay, this is what i've gathered:

Boot mode http://nefmoto.com/wiki/index.php/ECU_Boot_Mode

Power on, with Ignition off (pin 3)
Ground chip pin 24 to ground OR if installed a switch on ECU, turn ON (bridged)
Ignition ON (Pin 3), wait 2-3 seconds....
Turn ECU Switch OFF (unbridged).
Now in Boot mode.

Have followed ddillenger's Galletto topic http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3088.0

So now my Chinese clone of a RossTech has same S/N as offset 0x249E90 in Galletto exe. S/N 47514789 {checked exe with HxD}

But when about to proceed, I read ddillenger's post:

"...Try the bootmode option with nefmoto to verify you're in bootmode. You won't be able to do anything, but at least it'll confirm."

So unsure what the next step is. Has nefmoto the capability to flash the bin in bootmode?

Also what's the sequence?
a)Boot mode ECU >connect USB to laptop> connect nefmoto in bootmode
b)connect USB to laptop > Boot mode ECU > connect mefmoto in bootmode
c) anything else.

I know the sequence can be very particular, hence how I found out how to do BDM with the SAAB ECU. Shocked Roll Eyes
Want to check before turning a brick into a.....half brick!?!

--edit--
Never used Galletto Sw so not sure if I should 'Open file' and add the stock 8D0-551L bin {as Nyet recommended in an earlier post}.
Or if that is not relavant to this situation. Soz.




______EDIT________

Success!
Took the plunge.
Went with the 8D0-551L bin, paniced when the box appeared at the end in Italian!!
Used translate on phone, and it was just the 'turn ingition off for 10 sec' message. Phew
Completed 100% successfuly.
Used Mprog to return serial of my china-rosstech cable.
opened NefMoto and it connected and i read the DTCs and it recognised it as 8D0-551L bin.

Thank you all so SO much.

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2021, 08:22:23 PM »

Thanks for the update! It is always helpful when people followup with how they fixed things. It helps everyone.
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2021, 11:32:09 PM »

Is the riser board worth keeping?
EVC Electronic Key 610 https://www.evc.de/en/product/keys/keys.asp#KEY610

Seems it's just for protecting a custom map.
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2021, 11:41:36 PM »

No.
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2021, 04:29:39 AM »

When connected, it threw an error saying the ECU 8D0-551L not compatible with Transmission Module;
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 927 156 L
   Component: AG5 01V 2.7l5VT RdW 2526 
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 306FA5C7F0235A06A3-515A

Shall flash the stock old bin, and mod the Hitachi MAF.

---edit ----
Read on Ross Tech forum, that you need to match ECU softcoding: https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/24150/
So, shall try that.
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2021, 02:16:34 AM »

Had a search but couldn't find a fix for a simple issue:
When copy/ pasting the values/tables for Hitachi MAF from 8D0-551L

MLHFM
MLOFS
KFKHFM

The KFKHFM row and column axis values dont change.

Sure there's a simple fix to this, but 'me no understand'.

Also read up about KFMLDMX also being a value that might also need copying for a Bosch > Hitachi MAF conversion.
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2021, 04:22:28 AM »


The KFKHFM row and column axis values dont change.


Hi, you need to locate the axis address (make axis map for you xdf) and then change the axis.
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2021, 10:46:32 PM »

Hi, you need to locate the axis address (make axis map for you xdf) and then change the axis.

Had some searches, but couldn't find a tutorial, or guide.

Is it better to modify in Hex?

All new to me so; Itry not to ask too many stupid questions.

Still getting to grips wit Tuner Pro.
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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2021, 05:50:51 PM »

Every file has a different XDF. Stop using the 8D0-M XDF with 4B0-G.

8D0-L and 8D0-M *happen* to be able to share, but that is very rare. Just use L.
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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2021, 08:15:29 AM »

Think Mprog has not restored data to china rosstech. Not working and not being recognised.

Found thread and fixed: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=8894.msg78988#msg78988
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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2021, 02:04:48 AM »

When I connect the spare ecu with the 8D0-551L map on it i get these DTCs:

                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 078-907-551-AZA.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 8D0 907 551 L
  Component and/or Version: 2.7l V6/5VT     G   0001
           Software Coding: 05752
            Work Shop Code: WSC 02325 
                      VCID: 3365AACB0135611EDE-5178
13 Faults Found:

18320 - Pressure Sensor for Brake Boost (G294)
            P1912 - 35-00 - Short to Plus
17881 - EVAP Leak Detection Pump
            P1473 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17841 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299)
            P1433 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17840 - Secondary Air Injection Solenoid Valve (N112)
            P1432 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17530 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B2 S2
            P1122 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17526 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S2
            P1118 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17837 - Circuit for Brake Vacuum Pump
            P1429 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
            P0300 - 35-00 -
16688 - Cylinder 4
            P0304 - 35-00 - Misfire Detected
16686 - Cylinder 2
            P0302 - 35-00 - Misfire Detected
17522 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2
            P1114 - 35-00 - Internal Resistance too High
17548 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B2 S2
            P1140 - 35-00 - Internal Resistance too High
16486 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
            P0102 - 35-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

Readiness: 0110 1101


Had a look for how to 'code out' various stuff, but flummoxed.

My car doesn't have:
pressure sensor for brake boost
evap leak detection pump
any SAI
any post cat lambdas

did have two faulty injectors, hence misfire,
and bosch maf (have since installed an adapter cable for hitachi MAF).

Have resorted back to Original ECU, but want to fix DTCs in secondary as tracing another misfire (probably PCV related).

Any advise appreciated.
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2021, 09:05:03 AM »

https://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#DTC_disables

You need to be more specific, you'll get the dtc's with no parts on it, sort them as per wiki/numerous threads, sort eskonf - done. You are using a definition file right?
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