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« on: May 26, 2012, 04:35:06 PM »

Here are some auto generated files.
They don't contain everything, not everything is correct, etc.

But they can be something to work from.
The way I generated these is by using region matching, and feeding the parser existing .kp and matching .bin files.

Approximately 2700 maps/constants in each file.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 07:14:50 PM »

Fantastic files, thanks for sharing. Any chance on the same files for 557N? What tool are you using for the matching, some sort of Regex?
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 08:15:09 PM »

Phenomenal work, prj
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 04:23:33 AM »

I am using region based matching and searching for equal data...
Basically trying to find data that is exactly the same between two tunes at a minimum length and then extending around that area until non-equal data is hit.

It does not always work out, there are some guesses made, etc, but it can still reduce the manual labor by quite a bit.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 09:42:21 AM »

That's awesome.  You are doing the pattern-search equivalent of a radial basis kernel in statistical learning theory.  So cool man!
Let's keep this energy going here.  Is there someway to re-group these like in Nye's XDF file by group?  How about the descriptions, can we make a master table and edit the German to English?

Bigger picture, have you been able to compare the K-box and M-box table intersections?
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 10:42:19 AM »

I don't really think there is any point grouping.

The way I work is I generate a such file, then start hand editing it.
I have everything ungrouped, except for the items that I am using to tune. I group those logically for myself.
So basically I move ungrouped items into grouped.
And the grouping is just to have an overview anyway, when I edit a parameter, I always use search.

I don't really care much for M-Box myself.
No idea why people tend to be so fond of it. There is no definition available, so you might as well work from the G-Box for example.
It's like some sort of "follow the pack" mentality.

I have not tried flashing a M-Box to K-Box yet, but if that's possible, then I don't see any point to use anything other than K-Box Smiley
If someone wants to work on it, I can post the source of the thing. But I pretty much don't plan to make any enhancements to it as it stands now.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 10:50:29 AM »


I don't really care much for M-Box myself.
No idea why people tend to be so fond of it. There is no definition available, so you might as well work from the G-Box for example.

The m-box is only popular because its the only relatively late box with a definitions file.

That definitions file exists (and is public) only because I made it (and made it public), and m-box was what I started working with (because I didn't know any better). Everybody else was busy playing secret handshake games and "omg I can't tell you anything because i spent so much money and you're a noob and blah blah blah"

If I could do it all over, i'd have done it with k-box.

If anything, the fully spec'd definition files make learning hard, because of the # of maps.

If somebody makes a pared down def file, with the "important" maps, you can bet that will be popular.

I agree, there is nothing fundamentally special about m-box itself.

It really only comes down to map pack availability.

I am thinking about taking your def and making a pared down k-box map pack and converting.

problem is, i need it all in a .kp :/

any progress in making a xdf->kp converter? Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 01:19:20 AM »

The m-box is only popular because its the only relatively late box with a definitions file.

That definitions file exists (and is public) only because I made it (and made it public), and m-box was what I started working with (because I didn't know any better). Everybody else was busy playing secret handshake games and "omg I can't tell you anything because i spent so much money and you're a noob and blah blah blah"
It's not only you who uses the M-box. There are quite a few tuners in the US who are using M-box as well for some reason.

I will let you in on a little "secret" as to why you /should/ use K-box. 16 bit load axes. Meaning no stupid 190 load limit in any of the important maps. No underscaling of LOAD.

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Haven't tried....
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 10:05:27 AM »

It's not only you who uses the M-box. There are quite a few tuners in the US who are using M-box as well for some reason.

There were only two choices in the US before the g-box damos leaked - H or M (for stage 1)

IIRC APR started with F/K when they went to K04s, but they made the least amount of power, and the most aggressive tunes (stage 1, 2, 3, and homebrew) and were M-Box based.

The rest is inertia.

Pro tuners, as you know, are lazy. They had base files and saw no good reason to start all over with another box.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2012, 06:25:53 AM »

any progress in making a xdf->kp converter? Smiley

xdf -> a2l should be the more easier way?! Wink
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 08:35:06 AM »

is there an a2l spec?
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 12:54:42 PM »

i would like to know also.
today I stuck with a newer version of vectors asap2 Editor/viewer that is now able to read in some older .a2l files with certain syntax of IF_DATA without begin and and structures... Sad
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 06:35:53 AM »

Hey prj, do you (or anyone) by chance have a K-box 95040 dump that you could post/send me?
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 03:33:46 PM »

Hey prj, do you (or anyone) by chance have a K-box 95040 dump that you could post/send me?

Posted from Thomas here:  Smiley

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=2308.0title=
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2012, 03:36:11 PM »

Yup, posted when I messaged him about it.  Him and prj have been great resources for me today, as I try to go to a K-box tune.  They both have helped a ton.
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