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« on: August 31, 2022, 09:34:06 AM »
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Hi all. Please tell me for 5120 hack KVLAD - multiply with 2 KISRM - divide by 2  I heared from some source , they must be stock, not change for 5120 hack. And other thing i saw in some file 032hs from nefmoto for divisions peoples made from 4D 65 to A7 32 not to A6 32. One guy wrote same things/question about divisions on the forum, but no answers |
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tao13
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2022, 10:54:36 PM »
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I wrote at that topic about A7 and A6. I think they wrong with A7.
I tried in the past KVLAD and KISRM not devided, but the car works the same like they devided, not saw any difference.
I add a question here about DPUPS, must be devided with 2 for 5120, i feel many WG intervention and the car looks not had the same power with it not devided.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2022, 11:02:25 PM »
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There is a big thread covering all those questions
Did you both know what is the difference between A6 32 and A7 32 ? If no pls stop doing things you cannot understand
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tao13
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2022, 11:09:31 AM »
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I don't know what is the difference only i saw in file whitch is on this forum for 032hs they put A7 and for 8E0909518AK used A6.
Sincerly i don;t know asm but my logic for asm division i think in both file must use the same A7 or A6. I don;t know witch is correct but i think Bische had good values and it is A6
Please explain us about them.
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vladvlad
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2022, 11:03:05 AM »
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Nobody can tell us if they must
KVLAD - multiply with 2
KISRM - divide by 2
for 5120 hack???
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2022, 06:49:03 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2022, 11:38:05 PM »
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i knew the file and specifications, but like i wrote upstairs, from other source i heard they must not be touched (KISRM and KVLAD).
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tao13
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2022, 02:26:22 AM »
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I tried too 032HS/032HF file in 3 modes:
1. kisrm and kvlad stock value and divisions made with A6 32 - When stop the car to idle from driving the idle is bad, first goes to 600rpm and go to 760(normal) in 1-2 seconds
2. kisrm and kvlad stock value and BUT divisions made with A& 32 - When stop the car to idle from driving the idle is bad, first goes to 600rpm and go to 760(normal) in 1-2 seconds BUT THE EFFECT IS WORST than point 1, but car is very agressive from low rpm.
3.1. kisrm devided with 2 and kvlad multiply with 2 and divisions made with A7 32 - idle rev is much better , but a little oscilations, BUT BUT the car feel without power to low rpm , before 3000rpm, like throttle not responde so fast.
A6 vs A7....is not big difference in CODE/ASm
A6 made 12966 , A6 made 12967 sooooo i think can be use both, so the problems not from there.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2022, 07:08:11 AM »
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Are your low load IRL values stock?? Even small changes here in the low load columns will make the car idle like garbage.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2022, 07:10:19 AM »
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When I get home today I will post my most up to date .bin. Idle quality is good, though set to 1,000 rpm. Hopefully the comparison will be helpful.
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tao13
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2022, 08:27:21 AM »
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All load in low rpm are stock.
The idle is good only when i came to idle from drive it had a huge decrease, first when i stop the car at idle , the rpm goes to 600 and after this goes in 1-2 seconds to normal value 760. I saw there a very rich AFR, it goes to 11.0-11.1 even if it must be 14.5. This effect is worst when i stop the car with much brake pedal. If i left the car to stop at idle itself, the idle rev it is not so bad. I suspect a hardware part too
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2022, 01:45:24 PM »
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My latest E85 5120 tune w/good idle at 1,000 rpm. This is even with a 2.5 throttle body. Hope it helps.
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tao13
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2022, 12:30:32 AM »
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Thanks.
Difference :
-KVLAD (i have 2 maps in my definitions too) - i saw you multiplied both, but i think only one is real KVLAD
-DPDSVLU you not devided
-LDEIAP you not devided to -20 , you made it 1270 (i think it doesn't matter for idle)
-PBKVVSTGPV you don;t touch it (no table , no axis) , here i have a strange values , maybe my definition for it is wrong evenif gremlin and rogerious confirmed to me the address (i have 032HF file)
And i have some source too the KVLAD and KISRM must not be devided with 2 , because asm changes made this. here maybe NYET OR PRJ OR FUKENBROKEN can help us if they want!
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2022, 06:55:50 PM »
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If you want to post your bin and xdf I will give them a look too
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tao13
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2022, 01:08:08 AM »
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Thanks. Is nothing to verify in it.
I have a strange fuel on decceleration, the AFR goes to 11.0 evenif request is 14.5
You can see in the attached log.
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