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« on: September 22, 2022, 09:55:19 AM »

This is on an 06A906032HS, it's a transverse 180hp wideband 1.8T w/ 5120 hack.

This looks like it's clipping (ee term) at 191.25 to me.  I know the KFMIRL/KFMIOP and timing tables end at 191.25% rl on S4s.

I usually don't run the car this hard but I'm trying to debug/wrap my head around ps_w to rl_w and aligning them better (input welcomed here)
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2022, 11:34:40 AM »

Log rl_w, not rl which obviously capped at 191
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2022, 12:24:55 PM »

might want to change the topic Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2022, 12:25:42 PM »

there, fixed it for you Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2022, 04:15:43 AM »

Stock KVLAD or multyplied with 2?
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2022, 07:29:31 AM »

might want to change the topic Tongue
there, fixed it for you Tongue

Thank you!

Log rl_w, not rl which obviously capped at 191

I knew it was going to be something simple like this, that's why I posted this here lmao.  Thank you!


Stock KVLAD or multyplied with 2?


It's multiplied by two.  I also re-checked the bin I posted in the 032hs 5120 thread to make sure we weren't missing anything.


Maybe this is the problem with rl not tracking rlsol/rlmax/rlmx like I'd expect it to. 

As far as i know, any IRL/IOP weirdness should show up in rlmax/rlsol.

if your rlmax/rlsol looks right, but plsol doesn't, it isn't IRL/IOP related.

I could be wrong, of course.

rlmax/rlsol track each other perfectly, pvdks_w stays pretty far below plsol and just doesn't look right to me.

I does, through milsol_w. MDKOL can lower the torque request input to KFMIRL.

Edit: The fact that rlsol_w is following rlmax_w shows that it is being limited in LDRLMX and not from MDKOL.

This is the case with my tune as well ^


Requested is following corrected, but actual is just doing it's own thing.  Any insight would be appreciated.








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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2022, 10:47:38 AM »

Try kvlad stock and you will see some modifications in the log.
In my 032hs xdf i have 2 kvlad defined
0x10D48 1 byte 0.007813 * X
0x10D49 1 byte 0.007813 * X

AND other thing , i think you touched LDORXN.
Did you have this error : 17963 - Charge Pressure  P1555 - 35-00 - Maximum Limit Exceeded??? Is Your throttle cutted?


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« Reply #7 on: Today at 12:20:49 PM »

pls disregard
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« Reply #8 on: Today at 12:57:45 PM »

Try kvlad stock and you will see some modifications in the log.
In my 032hs xdf i have 2 kvlad defined
0x10D48 1 byte 0.007813 * X
0x10D49 1 byte 0.007813 * X

AND other thing , i think you touched LDORXN.
Did you have this error : 17963 - Charge Pressure  P1555 - 35-00 - Maximum Limit Exceeded??? Is Your throttle cutted?

LDORXN is stock.  I attached my bin and xdf if it's of any use.  I have like once or twice (since turning the boost way up) experienced something that felt like a sudden, brief, drop in torque.  KFFLLDE has been modified to pull more load in the event of significant knock retard

I also have kvlad at:
0x10D48 1 byte 0.007813 * X, value is currently 0.5938 (stock is 0.2969 so this is multiplied by 2)
0x10D49 1 byte 0.007813 * X, value is currently 1.5626 (stock is 0.7813 so this is multiplied by 2)

I imagine one of these is correct, I'll look into it and report back.

I found this interesting:
Im trying to find it by comparing my 06A906032KP with the 518M File.
here is my current status, but i not tested and im not sure in some maps ( functions )

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KVLAD - 10D48



I tried too 032HS/032HF file in 3 modes:
1. kisrm and kvlad stock value and divisions made with A6 32 - When stop the car to idle from driving the idle is bad, first goes to 600rpm and go to 760(normal) in 1-2 seconds
2. kisrm and kvlad stock value and BUT divisions made with A& 32 - When stop the car to idle from driving the idle is bad, first goes to 600rpm and go to 760(normal) in 1-2 seconds BUT THE EFFECT IS WORST than point 1, but car is very agressive from low rpm.
3.1. kisrm devided with 2 and kvlad multiply with 2 and divisions made with A7 32 - idle rev is much better , but a little oscilations, BUT BUT the car feel without power to low rpm , before 3000rpm, like throttle not responde so fast.

A6 vs A7....is not big difference in CODE/ASm
A6 made 12966 , A6 made 12967 sooooo i think can be use both, so the problems not from there.


I am experiencing something similar.  As the RPM drops to idle (for instance, depressing the clutch after engine braking at let's say 2000rpm) I get a brief surge up to 1200rpm, then the idle settles near 760.  This is somewhat sporadic, and I've had this issue for a long time.  I think probably as long as I've been running that 5120 file.   

Every once in a while, the engine also races to approximately 3000rpm for a few seconds, then settles into its usual warmup behavior, this got my attention right away.  It's only happened maybe twice, and the weather has gotten substantially colder here in the past two weeks.  My gut says this probably has something to do with the temperature change, but I have not properly investigated yet so I can't say for sure.


I will investigate more and report back either way.  Annotated FR picture attached for my own reference and anyone else who ends up here through searching.


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« Reply #9 on: Today at 01:00:22 PM »

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confused myself trying to attach files, pardon my incompetence
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« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:18:38 PM »

I also have kvlad at:
0x10D48 1 byte 0.007813 * X, value is currently 0.5938 (stock is 0.2969 so this is multiplied by 2)
0x10D49 1 byte 0.007813 * X, value is currently 1.5626 (stock is 0.7813 so this is multiplied by 2)

It looks like 0x10C3E for the HS and 0x10BDC for the CB are the same point in memory just with an offset. Assuming that is the case, and we know KVLAD is at 0x10CE7 in the 018CB file, it's 0x10B from our reference point.  If we apply this to the 032HS file, and assume KVLAD is 0x10B from the reference point, it gives us 0x10D49. Comparing to 8N0901018CB, it looks to me like 0x10D49 is correct. 

In that case, following the same logic (which may be flawed, I'm not a professional), KUMSRL is at 0x10D48 in the 032HS file.

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