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« on: July 27, 2025, 06:24:59 AM »

So i have a 1.8t Awt with 8E0906018B  0003 ecu (me7.5). I did checksum before flashing but it looks like the checksum was incorrect because my car wont start now. This was my first flash and also my first brick. Now i need to get the ecu unbricked and write the ori bin on it so i can go to work tomorrow. mpps wont find ecu, nefmoto connect to ecu about 5% chanse it connects (got it to connect twice) and even if it connects its only in kwp2000 not boot mode, and because of that when i try to flash nefmoto gives me an error that about immo not being off/being incorrect) and then disconnects and wait for me to reconnect ecu before continueing, but well after that it cant connect. i tryed connecting in boot mode (ecu being in boot mode with the pin24 grounded) and still nothing. tryes to upload bootstrap but fails, and i only got it once to upload bootstrap and then the next part came where it couldnt connect/contiue to connect to ecu. I have mpps v13 dongle and a ebay ftdi kkl cable. i did my best with the bench and wires i have so it does something but not enough. i also downloaded Vag eeprom programer v1.19 but that too says ecu not found(did it with out boot modeing ecu). also when i first tryed grounding pin24 i tryed to solder a very thing wire in front of the pin where the is a better place to solder to, but failed to get the wire to stick to the solder and that part looks a bit burnt. Basically solder is no more there or if it gets connection in that part. after that it still got connection in nefmoto with a lot of luck but still refused to write becuase of eeprom immo being on. So could yall tell me am i screwed or not? Pay day is far away to get a new ecu and my work place is pretty far away. Any help is appriciated!
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2025, 11:15:19 AM »

Use my program FlashDock, ecu needs to be in bootmode, it will go into boot mode every time if sequenced correctly. You ground the boot pin on power up for 5 seconds, then remove the ground wire, no longer than that and then flash the ecu. FlashDock does not care about the bootpin being grounded the whole time as other software does, and it works with a generic ftdi cable like nefmoto, I also have a checksum tool built into FlashDock and I posted its posted here http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=;topic=23780.0

Watch the you video on how to use it linked in the thread.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2025, 12:05:42 PM »

Is the checksum how build in to the flashing? do i need to separetly checksum it or it does it automatically before flashing? I will try it out tomorrow when i get back from work.

I had to buy another car from a friend on a loan so i can go to work Grin got my self a b7 1.9tdi. rusty ass hell and the trunk is midway painted but it does the job until i get my ecu working. will report tomorrow how it went.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2025, 08:52:32 PM »

Read the thread fully and watch the linked vids, I went thru how to use the program and made a youtube vid that will answer all your questions
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2025, 08:58:28 AM »

So a few problems came up with the software. The built in immo off didnt work even tho it said it should be off. The checkmate button or checksum corrector doesnt want to open(apparently no exe or something for it). But good news is that i got the eeprom.bin file. I was also able to write the .bin to my ecu but with no luck the car didnt start. The "ori" bin i have or i read from the car already had a stage 1 tune on it, and i want to put it back now to get my car working again. But guestion is that do i need to checksum the file i read from the ecu when it has a stage 1 on it?
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2025, 05:02:55 PM »

OP the thing to understand and i still have much to learn myself    i had a similar issue and experience with a bricked ecu    so aside from having a power source and understanding how to boot the ecu      which i see you soldered a wire and the area around does not look as good

my successful way to bring back ecu every time is to have a Stock Original (Ori) file to load on to the ecu   you can find stock ORI files here on nefmoto   
i am using MPPS V18  and with a tricore cable    for ease of work   you must load Stock ORi file first then you can load in whatever file you may so choose as long as its a good working file     hopefully if anything you saved the File that was on the ecu before you did the flash  that way you can re flash the file on to said ecu   

now with the immo  that is good you got the eeprom bin  for later use in IMMO off  but i have no guidance for that   under mpps v18 when i use boot mode it bypasses the immo for me    its always best to checksum any file before flashing to prevent no start     also Namesless  seems like he was pointing you in a good direction
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2025, 07:32:34 PM »

So a few problems came up with the software. The built in immo off didnt work even tho it said it should be off. The checkmate button or checksum corrector doesnt want to open(apparently no exe or something for it). But good news is that i got the eeprom.bin file. I was also able to write the .bin to my ecu but with no luck the car didnt start. The "ori" bin i have or i read from the car already had a stage 1 tune on it, and i want to put it back now to get my car working again. But guestion is that do i need to checksum the file i read from the ecu when it has a stage 1 on it?
Immo off is done in eeprom not flash with the tools I uploaded, so if you loaded a flash file and tried turning off the immo with a eeprom tool yeah its not going to work. You are moving way too quickly and the situation you are in reflects that. Reading out a tune file without knowing anything about it could be your problem too, sometimes tuners change things or add some custom code as a deturrent to prevent people from reading out their tunes. For example revo puts your car in forever limpmode if you try to do anything thru the port with their files. MPPS will encrypt the tune and save it as a non editable file, so if you did a port read of a file that has a no read tag in it that would be something to look into as well. That would be the first thing, Second learn the difference between eep, flash and mpc otherwise you are going to have a rough time. Get the part number off the ecu and post it here I can provide you with the correct original file to bring the ecu back to life.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2025, 04:31:03 AM »

OP the thing to understand and i still have much to learn myself    i had a similar issue and experience with a bricked ecu    so aside from having a power source and understanding how to boot the ecu      which i see you soldered a wire and the area around does not look as good

my successful way to bring back ecu every time is to have a Stock Original (Ori) file to load on to the ecu   you can find stock ORI files here on nefmoto   
i am using MPPS V18  and with a tricore cable    for ease of work   you must load Stock ORi file first then you can load in whatever file you may so choose as long as its a good working file     hopefully if anything you saved the File that was on the ecu before you did the flash  that way you can re flash the file on to said ecu   

now with the immo  that is good you got the eeprom bin  for later use in IMMO off  but i have no guidance for that   under mpps v18 when i use boot mode it bypasses the immo for me    its always best to checksum any file before flashing to prevent no start     also Namesless  seems like he was pointing you in a good direction
I didnt meant to be mean, i just pointed out problems that i had. Also weirly some app in the software started woking for some reason when i changed laptop and then other programs started working more when i moved back to my first laptop. Sadly i only have Mpps v13. I am plannin to buy original/eu copy of mpps v18 since it looks like it way better at boot mode and flashing. Or even checksum.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2025, 04:42:35 AM »

Immo off is done in eeprom not flash with the tools I uploaded, so if you loaded a flash file and tried turning off the immo with a eeprom tool yeah its not going to work. You are moving way too quickly and the situation you are in reflects that. Reading out a tune file without knowing anything about it could be your problem too, sometimes tuners change things or add some custom code as a deturrent to prevent people from reading out their tunes. For example revo puts your car in forever limpmode if you try to do anything thru the port with their files. MPPS will encrypt the tune and save it as a non editable file, so if you did a port read of a file that has a no read tag in it that would be something to look into as well. That would be the first thing, Second learn the difference between eep, flash and mpc otherwise you are going to have a rough time. Get the part number off the ecu and post it here I can provide you with the correct original file to bring the ecu back to life.
I used the eeprom tool to immo off the eeprom bin. But after i checked if it changed or no it did not. Also all the programs started working slowly for some reasone. Checksum worked apparently. I made another thread in checksum request and somebody said everything is ok and no need to checksum it. Also im sorry if i dont explain things right, english is not my first language Cheesy. But you mentioned that some tuners shortly said lock the bin so i cant modify it, but i got the bin and was able to modify it in tunerpad. So to get my car back to work i need and actual ori file (not tuned like mine was already) and flash that on the ecu? Also do i need to checksum the ori bin file?

Im putting in this reply the bin i read from the ecu first. Im also including the one that is apparently correctly check summed
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2025, 11:24:52 AM »

update:Eeprom is 100%fine, write was also 100% excellent with original (not tuned bin) and i got ecu to be registered in vcds. I got the key for cluster but i tried too many times with the wrong one. I also found out that ecu/ecu+engine was swapped 15k/km ago, since vag eeprom programmer v1.19 shows milage for cluster rounded 422k/km and for the ecu that said 15k/km. could it be that the previous owner/mechanich who changed engine edited ecu eeprom to show how much was driven with "new" engine cince swap. sad thing is tha i dont know how much milage is in the actual engine other than from wear and tear.
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