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« on: September 07, 2012, 07:07:03 AM »

Hello.
I bought saab injectors, Bosch p/n 0 280 156 023 for my A4'02 AMB engine.

They are 382cc at 3 bars.

Firstly, I corrected KRKTE to 0.07384 (from ME7 tunung wizard) and KVB from 316 to 425.

And after starting I has very rich mixture..And additive correction goes to out of limit..

What wrong with me?
 Which tables I nedd to correction in additional?

I'm sorry for my English..
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 07:18:41 AM »

Are you using 4bar fpr?

KRKTE is too low but does not explain rich conditions.
For 3 bar fpr KRKTE should be adjusted around ~0.087 and KVB == 382.


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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 11:08:18 PM »

After one more flashing problem solved Smiley

I'm using stock fpr, as I khow, it's 4bar.

I use 0.07 KRKTE and I have -2.3...+1.1 lamba-correction on idle. Is it OK? And additive is about 4%..

Is it necessary to correct TVUB table?
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2012, 01:19:21 AM »

I d add ~4% to your current KRKTE value  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2012, 04:57:31 AM »

Thanks. 4% additive means rich condition?
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2012, 08:35:02 AM »

The opposite.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2012, 12:22:47 AM »

Hello again..
Since 2 days of driving, I have MIL ind
and vag-com shows:

17544 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 (add): System too Lean … 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded

Something wrong in my fuel system?
I have no changes of boost, just change the injectors nad KRKTE and TVUB tables..
Maybe my injectors are not really 382cc and I need perfomance test to check actual flow?

Are 2002 AMB having 4 bar fpr?



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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 05:38:05 AM »

Hello again..
Since 2 days of driving, I have MIL ind
and vag-com shows:

17544 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 (add): System too Lean … 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded

Something wrong in my fuel system?
I have no changes of boost, just change the injectors nad KRKTE and TVUB tables..
Maybe my injectors are not really 382cc and I need perfomance test to check actual flow?

Are 2002 AMB having 4 bar fpr?

proffesor has been telling you the whole time that your injector calibration is off.

Positive fuel trims == lean condition
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 05:59:42 AM »

What I should do now?
Can I use these injectors or they are broken and I need a new set?
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2012, 07:55:31 AM »

What I should do now?
Can I use these injectors or they are broken and I need a new set?

Sounds like a tuning issue to me.

Have you tweaked your calibration or are you completely relying on that "wizard"?
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2012, 10:34:29 AM »

Injectors are not calibrated correct and that causes this MIL and probably driving variations.
As phila_dot says your tuning file needs adjustments.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2012, 12:47:35 PM »

Need correct KFKHFM map?
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2012, 01:07:23 PM »

Post your LAST file over here, to let people see what you did ?

Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2012, 03:16:35 PM »

There is my version.
I just changed KRKTE scale.
My car has only injectors changed..
Big thanks..
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2012, 05:27:43 PM »

Hi,

Thanks for posting the file. Let's have a look to it later.

First some extra questions to be sure : You have NO other modifications made, right ? ? ? ?

NO other turbocharger, NO other downpipe, ect, etc, to get more power, right ? ? ? ?

Thanks,

PvL
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