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« on: September 09, 2012, 10:13:26 AM »

any ideas on how to remove tprot? someone mentioned you a need an original version of the software before tprot was activated.
i guess you would just patch the bootloader from one file to the other? or something to that affect. but there has to be another way.

my edc17 has tprot 7.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 10:14:35 AM »

You don't need to do this if you are boot loading, I thought that is how you are loading your file?
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 05:46:59 AM »

TPROT is hardware, NOT software.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 06:16:54 AM »

TPROT is hardware, NOT software.

Please explain.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 08:04:42 AM »

You don't need to do this if you are boot loading, I thought that is how you are loading your file?

it is, using x17. but its a pain to have to pull and open the ecu every time i want to flash a file. it would be much more convenient to just plug and flash via obd.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2012, 04:22:54 AM »

You get ECU say xxx022XY with software version 1234 that's non TP. You can flash it OBD2 all day long. Then the same xxx022XY ECU comes out of the factory with software version 8899 that has TP in it. If you downgrade this ECU to version 1234 by doing a full 2 or 4MB flash, it will still have TPROT and you won't be able to flash it OBD2 unless the TPROT is patched in the code.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 04:41:46 AM »

If you downgrade this ECU to version 1234 by doing a full 2 or 4MB flash, it will still have TPROT and you won't be able to flash it OBD2 unless the TPROT is patched in the code.

You need to be able to write over the "OTP" area to be able to do that.

Seeing that I can turn it on/off in software, and software is what runs on the processor inside the ECU then TPROT is controlled by software.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 04:43:06 AM »

I can update/downgrade any software version on any ECU, however, writing over OTP sectors is not possible as they are just what it says on the tin: One Time Programmable Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 04:49:15 AM »

I can update/downgrade any software version on any ECU, however, writing over OTP sectors is not possible as they are just what it says on the tin: One Time Programmable Smiley

You can not "downgrade" a full TPROT ECU in the true sense of the word with out writing the OTP.

TPROT is hardware, NOT software.

If TPROT is hardware then to change it you need to change hardware, yet above you say change software to do so. So which is it?
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 07:55:07 AM »

so do you modify the hardware to write the otp area? (i would assume this is possible. ive read about hardware modification for tp) or just patch the tprot in a different location in the software?

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Reading ECU data, please wait...
PROCESSOR TYPE: TC1796
IROM FLASH sector configuration:
Address   Size    Access
A0000000h   4000h   read and write
A0004000h   4000h   read and write
A0008000h   4000h   read and write
A000C000h   4000h   read and write
A0010000h   4000h   read only (OTP)
A0014000h   4000h   read only (OTP)
A0018000h   4000h   read and write
A001C000h   4000h   read and write
A0020000h   20000h   read and write
A0040000h   40000h   read and write
A0080000h   80000h   read and write
A0100000h   80000h   read and write
A0180000h   80000h   read and write
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2012, 08:45:56 AM »

sorted. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2012, 07:04:07 AM »

What's the point of making a such remark without writing how you sorted things?

Probably worst thing you can do on a forum, is ask a question regarding a problem, have people suggest things, then just write "fixed" or "sorted" without any explanation.

Sorry for rant, but I think this behaviour is just horrible.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2012, 07:24:05 AM »

i bought a solution. thats how i sorted things.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2012, 10:24:56 AM »

i bought a solution. thats how i sorted things.

Might be interesting for others which solution you bought. Don't you think?
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2012, 12:39:51 PM »

it was a software patch.
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