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« on: November 06, 2012, 04:05:15 PM »

Hi!

New here and i´m trying to read the info from my ECU... And i would also like to read and save my ECU file from my car, witch program do i Use?

I had the car ECU programmed at the dealer. But i´m thinking to change back to original because the car wont go better with the new software.

I used the NefMoto Flasher Logger Installer 1.9.3.2 to get this info.
Please help me.

Audi A4 1,8TQ 2002

Connecting...
Starting slow init connection.
Connecting to address 0x01.
Slow init succeeded.
Switching to KWP2000 session.
Connected
Disabling Windows sleep mode.
Reading all ECU info.
Starting diagnostic session.
Unable to properly start diagnostic session, attempting to continue with current undefined session.
Negotiating communication timings.
Successfully changed to new communication timings.
0% complete.
20% complete.
40% complete.
60% complete.
80% complete.
100% complete.
Read 5 ECU info entries:
   0x92, System Supplier ECU Hardware Number: 0261207778
   0x94, System Supplier ECU Software Number: 1037363466
   0x91, Vehicle Manufacturer ECU Hardware Number: 0x0D, 8E0909018   , 0xFF
   0x9B, Calibration Date: 8E0909518M  , 0002, 0x03002DB5, 0x00010203, 0x0405, 1.8L R4/5VT    ,  G   
   0x9C, Calibration Equiment Software Number: 0x00030300
Restoring Windows sleep mode.
Disconnecting...
Disconnected
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 03:13:49 AM »

Please help me...
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 04:37:33 AM »

Please help me...


What Memory Layout should i use?

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 02:53:20 PM »

hm... i tried the 800BB something and all i get is this:

Connecting...
Starting slow init connection.
Connecting to address 0x01.
Slow init succeeded.
Switching to KWP2000 session.
Connected
Disabling Windows sleep mode.
Reading ECU flash memory.
ECU reports programming session preconditions have been met.
Negotiating communication timings.
Successfully changed to new communication timings.
Requesting security access.
Security access granted.
Starting diagnostic session.
Successfully started diagnostic session.
Negotiating communication timings.
Successfully changed to new communication timings.
Requesting security access.
Security access granted.
Validating flash memory starts at 0x00800000 and ends at 0x00900000.
Validation failed, ECU reports RequestUpload service is not supported. RequestUpload may have been disabled by aftermarket engine software.
Memory layout validation failed.
Reading ECU flash memory failed. Trying to force ECU to recognize read operation is complete.
Finished forcing ECU to recognize that failed read operation is complete.
Reading ECU flash memory failed.
100% complete.
Restoring Windows sleep mode.
Disconnecting...
Disconnected



Can you guys PLEASE help me?
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 03:26:15 PM »

Ok... i read that i have flash it to stock.

how do i know witch file work with my car?

Audi A4 1,8T quattro 2002, European modell if that does change anything.

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 04:28:56 PM »

What is the file name that i am supposed look for?

Read 5 ECU info entries:
   0x92, System Supplier ECU Hardware Number: 0261207778
   0x94, System Supplier ECU Software Number: 1037363466
   0x91, Vehicle Manufacturer ECU Hardware Number: 0x0D, 8E0909018   , 0xFF
   0x9B, Calibration Date: 8E0909518M  , 0002, 0x03002DB5, 0x00010203, 0x0405, 1.8L R4/5VT    ,  G   
   0x9C, Calibration Equiment Software Number: 0x00030300
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 07:56:49 PM »

8E0909518M

but DON'T try to write until you are able to backup the file that's on there. If you can't establish a read session, chances are you'll have just as much trouble writing. If writing fails, you have to remove the ecu and use boot mode.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2012, 12:56:08 AM »

Okay, thank you for the info. I belive that the ECU is READ protected somehow, becouse it has been chipped att the local tuner by me.

So i need the original firmware for my car... How do i get that?
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 01:15:18 AM »

So i need the original firmware for my car... How do i get that?


how do you get anything on the internet?
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 01:16:34 AM »

Is there a sticker on the case, or an aftermarket chip/socket in the ecu? Have you taken the ecu apart and verified the layout? The chip should be clearly marked. I know reading/writing will fail if the wrong layout is selected.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 04:11:37 AM »

Poor bugger,

Here's your ORI-file.

Choose 800BB or 800AB  as chip (1meg). Best thing to do : open-up ecu and look what the chip states.

Get it out of the car and inspect first. Make a pic and post it here please.

I think you will have a problem getting it into that ecu via software for reprogramming it, due to the current tune.

Why replace a tune for a original file ? Bad tune ?

Let us know.

Cheers,

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 12:46:47 PM »

Hi! Thank you for the replay.

I think it´s bad tune.

Hade the car tuned first and the clutch broke down. Replace it with sachs performance race clutch.
Bought 250 cells race-cat from 034 motorsport, Tuned it again at the local tuner, and now the car wont respond werry well.

It drinks fuel now! and the effect was not that great what i was hopping for.




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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2012, 04:35:54 PM »

Take it back to the tuner and tell him you are not satisfied and you want to return to stock.
You may not get a refund? But he should not charge you to return to stock.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2012, 03:37:31 PM »

okay... i´ll maybe go back to the tuner, but first i would like to log the car. Is this possible without the tuned.bin file?

The ECU seems to be read protected from the dealer. So i have to tune the car to stock, to get a log... am i right so far?

   (  ECU reports RequestUpload service is not supported. RequestUpload may have been disabled by aftermarket engine software.  )
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2012, 07:40:46 PM »

okay... i´ll maybe go back to the tuner, but first i would like to log the car. Is this possible without the tuned.bin file?

The ECU seems to be read protected from the dealer. So i have to tune the car to stock, to get a log... am i right so far?

   (  ECU reports RequestUpload service is not supported. RequestUpload may have been disabled by aftermarket engine software.  )

No reason this shouldn't work;
 http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=837.0title=
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