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« Reply #375 on: February 26, 2014, 03:57:15 PM »

BT's location is correct.

PSSOLNGRD 0x14B52
PSSOLPGRD 0x14B54
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« Reply #376 on: February 28, 2014, 03:01:18 PM »

This is MED9 code but in C167 asm.

Any ideas on how this equates to a division?  It breaks my head.

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« Reply #377 on: March 11, 2014, 10:55:57 AM »

I am trying to figure out why MSDK_W (flow over throttle plate) is roughly 1/2 of actual maf flow.

I followed ME7.1 bible and it appears that BGMSZS. bgmszs-lad function, fpvdkds_w * fkmsdk_w calculation is at fault here since the fpvdkds_w is 1/2 scale and is used directly in further multiplication with msdkue_w to give msdk_w... KLAF table output multiplier shouldn't affect this much although input to it is also 1/2 of what it should be.

Anybody has any idea for quick fix to this?
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« Reply #378 on: March 18, 2014, 08:04:06 AM »

Hey guys,

I collected some data for both my 5 bar AEM "brass" MAP sensor and my AEM 5 bar "Stainless steel" pressure sensor. The brass sensor is being logged via  ME7Logger with a DSLGARD = 646 and a DSLOFS = -323 per my calculations. The stainless steel sensor was being logged via my Zeitronix datalogger (both sensors logged during the same run at the same time).

You can see that the sensors track each other quite nicely (my offset is off about 2psi with my DSLOFS calc) and the brass sensor is a little bit noiser (too be expected).


EDIT: Correction, looks like I had a typo and my offset was actually -330 instead of what it should have been (-323). I will correct this and see if this corrects my offset error.

EDIT2: So it turns out I was wrong here. I replaced the brass sensor with the SS version and my boost curves now fall right on top of one another. DO NOT USE THE BRASS SENSOR IF YOU WANT ACCURATE READINGS!
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« Reply #379 on: March 21, 2014, 06:59:17 AM »

I believe the reason for the 2 psi offset is due to the brass sensor being about 2 feet away from the throttle body where as the SS sensor is reading off my intake manifold.
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« Reply #380 on: March 21, 2014, 07:10:25 AM »

I believe the reason for the 2 psi offset is due to the brass sensor being about 2 feet away from the throttle body where as the SS sensor is reading off my intake manifold.

They should read the same if placed in the same location, if one is in manifold and the other somewhere else, then it is natural to have some discrepancy due to pressure losses etc.
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« Reply #381 on: March 30, 2014, 02:10:20 PM »

I have installed map sensor from diesel and it works perfect. But now I would like to increase boost to 1.7 bar and I think I changed everything (pvdk_w etc) into my file, but idle is unstable and the engine doesnt work correctly (reduced power etc). Its R-box ME7.1.1 and its a little differ from M-box ME7.1
Please help if you know how to make it work.
I would like to install garrett 28 in near future and without this hack its senseless as you understand.
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« Reply #382 on: April 04, 2014, 02:11:25 PM »

I have installed map sensor from diesel and it works perfect. But now I would like to increase boost to 1.7 bar and I think I changed everything (pvdk_w etc) into my file, but idle is unstable and the engine doesnt work correctly (reduced power etc). Its R-box ME7.1.1 and its a little differ from M-box ME7.1
Please help if you know how to make it work.
I would like to install garrett 28 in near future and without this hack its senseless as you understand.


It sounds like you may have missed one or more of the 1013 mbar constants. I missed one at first and experienced the same thing you are.
When you say ME7.1.1 R-box, do you mean for the 2.7T (4Z7907551R)?
If so, here's the locations for the 1013 constants I changed & I've got the 5120 hack running w/ no problems for quite a while now. Also double/triple check that you didn't miss any other table or axis on the list in this thread.
0x6D8EC
0x6D8F2
0x6E276
0x6E3D8
0x6E400
0x6F22C
0x6F27A
0x6F308
0x6F408
0x6F96C
0x712A4

Use at your own risk & be cautious when doing any pulls/logging until you're sure everything is working right...


edit: Btw, I don't have winOLS so I didn't look at your file before posting
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« Reply #383 on: April 04, 2014, 04:46:23 PM »

Thank you very much! Will test it tomorrow. Yes, its 4z7907551R
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« Reply #384 on: April 04, 2014, 05:16:37 PM »

It sounds like you may have missed one or more of the 1013 mbar constants. I missed one at first and experienced the same thing you are.
When you say ME7.1.1 R-box, do you mean for the 2.7T (4Z7907551R)?
If so, here's the locations for the 1013 constants I changed & I've got the 5120 hack running w/ no problems for quite a while now. Also double/triple check that you didn't miss any other table or axis on the list in this thread.
0x6D8EC
0x6D8F2
0x6E276
0x6E3D8
0x6E400
0x6F22C
0x6F27A
0x6F308
0x6F408
0x6F96C
0x712A4

Use at your own risk & be cautious when doing any pulls/logging until you're sure everything is working right...


edit: Btw, I don't have winOLS so I didn't look at your file before posting

If you would be willing to post your stock file, with just the scaling that would be a great addition to the thread Smiley
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« Reply #385 on: April 04, 2014, 06:26:42 PM »

If you would be willing to post your stock file, with just the scaling that would be a great addition to the thread Smiley

I actually don't have a stock file with only the 5120 changes done, I made all the changes to a copy of my tune at the time.  I've been meaning to put a stock 5120 file together to put up here but just haven't gotten around to it.
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« Reply #386 on: April 05, 2014, 01:57:46 PM »

Ive just tested it and idle idle is ok, AFR is ok also, but
requested boost = 1250 mbar (2500 mbar without 5120)
actual boost = 770 mbar (1540 mbar)

I think I missied some PID axes or smth like that. And I cant find DPVLMS in ME7.1.1
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« Reply #387 on: April 08, 2014, 09:54:58 AM »

Ive just tested it and idle idle is ok, AFR is ok also, but
requested boost = 1250 mbar (2500 mbar without 5120)
actual boost = 770 mbar (1540 mbar)

I think I missied some PID axes or smth like that. And I cant find DPVLMS in ME7.1.1

Those are logged values? Did you adjust the log definition files?
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« Reply #388 on: April 08, 2014, 11:49:19 AM »

Its ok now (thanx to erroob0977), I missed some axes. I'm going to test it for some days but looks like everything is ok now.
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« Reply #389 on: April 10, 2014, 10:59:23 AM »

Well after avoiding this for a while now, i've decided to dig in.
First step was to pull out the hPa maps from orginal Audi TT damos and got these via a parsing script (most you have)

DIFFMAX
DLDUVES
DLUL
DPBKVLE
DPBKVP
DPBKVPMN
DPBKVSPS
DPBKVUKKPU
DPBKVUKNW
DPBKVUKP
DPBKVUKPU
DPBKVUS
DPDSVLU
DPLPLGD
DPSBKV
DPSLV
DPSPBKVNPH
DPUBABMX
DPUBAEMN
DPUBKV
DPUFFMN
DPUFFMX
DPUPS
DPUPVDK
DSBOFS
DSLGRAD
DSLOFS
DSTGRAD
DSUGRAD
DSUOFS
ELDOB
FLAMPA
FMDPUBKV
FQTEPT
FRLFSDP
HSLDSUA
KFBALB
KFDPLGU
KFDPVL
KFFLTA
KFGLTA
KFLDIMX
KFLDIOPU
KFLDRQ0
KFLDRQ1
KFLDRQ2
KFPLGUB
KFPRG
KFSDLDSUA
KFTVLDRE
KFTXFTA
KFURL
KFXFTA
KLDLUL
KLDPDK
KLTDS
KMLTESG
LDEIAO
LDEIAP
LDEIAPS
LDEIAU
LDELDRAO
LDELDRAU
LDPBN
LDRQ0S
LDRQ1ST
LDUVRS
MSNPCV
NDLDRAPU
NLDIAPU
OPBKVUKKB
OPBKVUKNWB
OPBKVUKPB
OPBKVUKPUB
PADMSA
PBKVKRHY
PBKVKRHY
PBKVMN
PBKVMX
PBKVVSTGPV
PLSOLAP
PSAPES
PSSOLNGRD
PSSOLPF
PSSOLPGRD
PUE
PUEBKV
PUELSU
PUKORRV
PULDR
PUMN
PUMX
PUSMAX
PUSMIN
PUSPSMX
PVDKMN
PVDKMX
PVDKPSMX
PVDKPUD
SLD04LDUB
SLD04LDUB
SPL08LDUW
SPU08LDUB
SPU08LDUB
UMDYLDR


Now I'm following bread crumbs in DOC to get those missing from damos and ATM hard coded, then on to verifying in assem code.

Not having fun.
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