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« on: January 12, 2013, 04:22:52 AM »
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Pulled this file of an audi A4 1.8tq -01.
been using MTX ME7 plugins for a ton of different ecus, allways worked 100%, and even this one says it is compatible, and the plugin "fixes" the checksums..
..only when i run me7check on the file it tells me "1 data area checksum failures found".. hmm! =/
all i did was up 1 point in the LDRXN map, and this happens.. now, i dont dare to flash it untill ive worked this out, WHY it cant correct this file.
i ran it thru me7fix, and it couldnt identify this as a me7.5 algoritm.. the mtx plugin said it should be compatible tho..
i read it using the 29f800 mem template, and the original files states NO errors.. i also tried reading it with 29f800bb, and this also states no errors.
what to do, is there something wrong with the file? someone else who could test with the MTX?
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icezero
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2013, 06:25:18 AM »
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the chk is correct
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sn00k
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2013, 06:28:00 AM »
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huh? in the "_mod" file? me7check sais it is not, why is that?  ME7Check v1.11 (c) mki, 06/2004-07/2011 Checking file d:\Motronic 7.5\!tuning\Gson\8E0906018B_A4_01_1.8TQ_mod.bin (size 1048576) Reading Version Strings... -> Bootrom Version = 05.12 -> EPK = 40/1/ME7.5/5/4016.32//24e/Dst04o/190101// -> Contents of ECUID data table: - '0261206868' (SSECUHN) - '1037360990' (SSECUSN) - '8E0906018B ' (VAG part number) - '0004' (VAG sw number) - '1.8L R4/5VT ' (engine id) -> Contents of ECUID data table: - 'HW_MAN004' Data area checksum failure(s) found -> Found 1 error!!! ******************************* |
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 06:28:41 AM »
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Well the original and 800bb files are identical, so no problems there, but comparing the changes between the original and modified files, i cant immediately see what differences between the files could be in an ldrxn map... What address are you changing for ldrxn?
I have differences at:
1f68e (2)
1fc76 (6)
1fe46 (6)
93000 (4)
939f8 (1)
fffe0 (32)
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sn00k
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2013, 06:32:33 AM »
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i have the ldrxn map located at 1F682, so ill bet the 1F68E is the only part that i have changed.. i just raised a value and saved to see if it would correct the checksum, but me7check gives me errors no matter what i do.. =/
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2013, 06:49:13 AM »
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Yep, so it is  Here's one that checks out ok, with the 1f68e modification, made from the original file. Would be intresting to see if MTX corrects any further changes ok though... Cheers |
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sn00k
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2013, 07:02:14 AM »
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hmm.. nope.. the MTX still seem to screw things up.. =S
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2013, 07:37:23 AM »
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Hmm indeed... Guess you've found a bug in the MTX checksum routine then. Email their support & see where you get to, but in the mean time if you need a checksum done, just post up the un-mtx'd file with the mods & i'll sort it for you.
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sn00k
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2013, 07:47:34 AM »
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ive sent mr.Salvatore a mail about this. ugh, thats so typical for my ecus.. my 032HN ecu was also the first one to encounter a bug in the MTX me7-2002 plugin, but that is corrected now in the new plugin-version..  thanks for the offer, thats great ..but i need the ability to tune things right away while im in the car.. and i wouldnt want to post my "top secret tuning techniques" for anyone to look at here.. someone might blow an engine..! hehe (there is also some custom code going into this ecu.. which is why i need to be able to alter things right away.. lets hope MTX will look at it asap) |
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 07:54:16 AM »
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Lol, no worries & hope it gets fixed soon. Offer still stands in the mean time - i have an honest face & won't tell a soul  |
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sn00k
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2013, 04:39:37 AM »
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so.. reply back from MTX saying there shouldnt be anything wrong with the file, but instead the me7check app.. which i doubt, since sweegies corrected file shows NO errors and the MTX plugin corrected one shows 1 error in data area. MTX also tried using winOLS and made the same mod and saved and got the same result as with the MTX-plugin, that is 1 error in data area. so, question is, what differs in these two files checksum tables, the same mod is made to both, only one point in the LDRXN map is raised, but one file has a bad checksum and the other seems ok. i dont know if i dare to flash it untill i know for certain that the checksum plugin are working and the sums are 100% correct.. anyone who could compare the checksums of the 2 files and perhaps find out what the MTX plugin(and apparently winOLS) is missing? ..any help with this is much appreciated! |
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nyet
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2013, 01:45:18 PM »
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For yucks, can you try ME7Sum (see my sig)?
There still some CRC things its missing, but it would be interesting to see..
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sn00k
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2013, 02:38:33 PM »
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thanks nyet, both files checks out ALL OK, but still differs, i dont know how two completely different checksums can still be OK.. note the checksum below..
MTX Corrected
1) <1fbfe> Adr: 0x000000-0x003FFF Chk: 0x0FA0F5CF 0x0FA0F5CF
2) <1fc0e> Adr: 0x004000-0x007FFF Chk: 0x0F4716B3 0x0F4716B3
3) <1fc1e> Adr: 0x008000-0x00BFFF Chk: 0x10DAEBD7 0x10DAEBD7
4) <1fc2e> Adr: 0x00C000-0x00FBFF Chk: 0x190D4B82 0x190D4B82
5) <1fc3e> Adr: 0x010000-0x013FFF Chk: 0x08B54495 0x08B54495
6) <1fc4e> Adr: 0x014000-0x017F4F Chk: 0x0C5A2B96 0x0C5A2B96
7) <1fc5e> Adr: 0x018190-0x01BFFF Chk: 0x06B18872 0x06B18872
8) <1fc6e> Adr: 0x01C000-0x01FFFF Chk: 0x0613AD21 0x0613AD21
9) <1fc7e> Adr: 0x020000-0x023FFF Chk: 0x1578F4EA 0x1578F4EA
0) <1fc8e> Adr: 0x024000-0x027FFF Chk: 0x0C445F93 0x0C445F93
1) <1fc9e> Adr: 0x028000-0x02BFFF Chk: 0x17BC2562 0x17BC2562
2) <1fcae> Adr: 0x02C000-0x02FFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
3) <1fcbe> Adr: 0x030000-0x033FFF Chk: 0x14738621 0x14738621
4) <1fcce> Adr: 0x034000-0x037FFF Chk: 0x0E781AAE 0x0E781AAE
5) <1fcde> Adr: 0x038000-0x03BFFF Chk: 0x0FBBCE3A 0x0FBBCE3A
6) <1fcee> Adr: 0x03C000-0x03FFFF Chk: 0x0F53FF23 0x0F53FF23
7) <1fcfe> Adr: 0x040000-0x043FFF Chk: 0x0FC852E6 0x0FC852E6
8) <1fd0e> Adr: 0x044000-0x047FFF Chk: 0x0E7FE5A2 0x0E7FE5A2
9) <1fd1e> Adr: 0x048000-0x04BFFF Chk: 0x0EDBD4C9 0x0EDBD4C9
0) <1fd2e> Adr: 0x04C000-0x04FFFF Chk: 0x1036C729 0x1036C729
1) <1fd3e> Adr: 0x050000-0x053FFF Chk: 0x0E541C1E 0x0E541C1E
2) <1fd4e> Adr: 0x054000-0x057FFF Chk: 0x0FD2570D 0x0FD2570D
3) <1fd5e> Adr: 0x058000-0x05BFFF Chk: 0x102AD17D 0x102AD17D
4) <1fd6e> Adr: 0x05C000-0x05FFFF Chk: 0x11282797 0x11282797
5) <1fd7e> Adr: 0x060000-0x063FFF Chk: 0x0F2D0F06 0x0F2D0F06
6) <1fd8e> Adr: 0x064000-0x067FFF Chk: 0x102FD519 0x102FD519
7) <1fd9e> Adr: 0x068000-0x06BFFF Chk: 0x0ED245BD 0x0ED245BD
8) <1fdae> Adr: 0x06C000-0x06FFFF Chk: 0x0D8BB012 0x0D8BB012
9) <1fdbe> Adr: 0x070000-0x073FFF Chk: 0x0F33C4DA 0x0F33C4DA
0) <1fdce> Adr: 0x074000-0x077FFF Chk: 0x106A3D6C 0x106A3D6C
1) <1fdde> Adr: 0x078000-0x07BFFF Chk: 0x1096BECE 0x1096BECE
2) <1fdee> Adr: 0x07C000-0x07FFFF Chk: 0x0EC0068B 0x0EC0068B
3) <1fdfe> Adr: 0x080000-0x083FFF Chk: 0x0DE9F75C 0x0DE9F75C
4) <1fe0e> Adr: 0x084000-0x087FFF Chk: 0x0D7E71A9 0x0D7E71A9
5) <1fe1e> Adr: 0x088000-0x08BFFF Chk: 0x0F126159 0x0F126159
6) <1fe2e> Adr: 0x08C000-0x08FBFF Chk: 0x0F18BCE4 0x0F18BCE4
7) <1fe3e> Adr: 0x090000-0x093FFF Chk: 0x10C9A3F9 0x10C9A445 <----THIS!
8) <1fe4e> Adr: 0x094000-0x097FFF Chk: 0x1168F78A 0x1168F78A
9) <1fe5e> Adr: 0x098190-0x09BFFF Chk: 0x0E444F23 0x0E444F23
0) <1fe6e> Adr: 0x09C000-0x09FFFF Chk: 0x0E17232A 0x0E17232A
1) <1fe7e> Adr: 0x0A0000-0x0A3FFF Chk: 0x0EABD6A6 0x0EABD6A6
2) <1fe8e> Adr: 0x0A4000-0x0A7FFF Chk: 0x0E4F92D0 0x0E4F92D0
3) <1fe9e> Adr: 0x0A8000-0x0ABFFF Chk: 0x12823329 0x12823329
4) <1feae> Adr: 0x0AC000-0x0AFFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
5) <1febe> Adr: 0x0B0000-0x0B3FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
6) <1fece> Adr: 0x0B4000-0x0B7FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
7) <1fede> Adr: 0x0B8000-0x0BBFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
8) <1feee> Adr: 0x0BC000-0x0BFFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
9) <1fefe> Adr: 0x0C0000-0x0C3FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
0) <1ff0e> Adr: 0x0C4000-0x0C7FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
1) <1ff1e> Adr: 0x0C8000-0x0CBFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
2) <1ff2e> Adr: 0x0CC000-0x0CFFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
3) <1ff3e> Adr: 0x0D0000-0x0D3FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
4) <1ff4e> Adr: 0x0D4000-0x0D7FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
5) <1ff5e> Adr: 0x0D8000-0x0DBFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
6) <1ff6e> Adr: 0x0DC000-0x0DFFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
7) <1ff7e> Adr: 0x0E0000-0x0E3FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
8) <1ff8e> Adr: 0x0E4000-0x0E7FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
9) <1ff9e> Adr: 0x0E8000-0x0EBFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
0) <1ffae> Adr: 0x0EC000-0x0EFFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
1) <1ffbe> Adr: 0x0F0000-0x0F3FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
2) <1ffce> Adr: 0x0F4000-0x0F7FFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
3) <1ffde> Adr: 0x0F8000-0x0FBFFF Chk: 0x1FFFE000 0x1FFFE000
4) <1ffee> Adr: 0x0FC000-0x0FFFFF Chk: 0x1FFDE002 0x1FFDE002
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2013, 08:24:22 PM »
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If you bin diff the two files, they probably have differences in that region; as i said, i think there are definitely gaps in ME7Sum's coverage... it could be that MTX is correcting something in 0x090000-0x093FFF that ME7Sum doesn't know how to correct  Bummer. Doesn't surprise me... I hope someday somebody can help me fix ME7Sum. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2013, 02:17:47 AM »
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nyet: there are NO differences in that region, that i can find, and the "corrected" file is NOT corrected using me7sum.. also, the corrected file is verified to be 100% working.
from what i can tell the MTX plugin is calculating this sum wrong, and even me7sum flags it as OK, which seems strange.. two different checksums cannot be OK, then they arent checksums.. forwarded this to MTX, but no reply as of yet.
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