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« Reply #1110 on: October 17, 2018, 02:37:03 AM »
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« Reply #1111 on: October 17, 2018, 08:41:11 AM »
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I want to install the injectors from 2002 T5 (0280155830) (my car is a 04 V70 lpt) My bin matches the V70R bin found here. Do I need to hunt down the TVUB and other maps or is FKKVS from the T5 enough? My bin is posted in this thread.
Thanks for any help!
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« Reply #1112 on: October 17, 2018, 11:16:01 AM »
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I think you want to change KRKTE first.
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« Reply #1113 on: October 18, 2018, 05:47:17 AM »
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I think you want to change KRKTE first.
Is 0.0480 right for a R. My v70 lpt is the same value. I will calculate the new value some time today. I dont think this is right Should be.... Calculation as follows (from translated RKTI) (50.2624 x 0.5042) / 261 = 0.0970 (0280155830 BLUE INJ) 0.5042 is my 1 cyl in dm3 261 is g/min in heptane My original 0280155831 gives me 0.1069 I tried with GAGTOOLS KRKTE calc and got 0.0992 for 0280155830 0280155831 = 0.1212 KRKTE Engine size 2521cc Cyl 5 Temp 0c Athmo 1000mbar Humid 0% Flow 297cc/min = 0.1212 (0280155831) Makes more sense with these numbers? I also read that if under 660cc no need to change TVUB KRKTE always must be calculated when larger injectors are fit!
We do not set KRKTE randomly but there is a formula from Bosch that calculate it! You analyze it before but you have to watch that this formula do not use the injectors gasolines flow rate at cc/min but uses the gasolines n-heptan flow rate with units g/min!
So watch out!
I usually tune larger injectors only with KRKTE without having problems, injectors till 600cc! Over 600cc you have to adjust injectors lag time and some more that you have found and you explain before!
Well done for your well job on that topic!
Regards Fotis
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« Reply #1114 on: October 20, 2018, 06:26:08 AM »
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Caution. In old Volvo damos for KFZW wrong axis factors for later files.
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« Reply #1115 on: October 22, 2018, 09:40:00 AM »
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Can anyone check my calculations?
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« Reply #1116 on: October 22, 2018, 11:49:42 AM »
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Can anyone check my calculations?
Use Gagtools for KRKTE and no problem 
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« Reply #1117 on: October 23, 2018, 08:22:55 AM »
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Use Gagtools for KRKTE and no problem  I did use GAGTOOLS. I would like to know if its correct.
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« Reply #1118 on: October 24, 2018, 02:04:58 AM »
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I did use GAGTOOLS. I would like to know if its correct.
Flash it and you will know by lambda and corrections.
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« Reply #1119 on: October 24, 2018, 04:21:08 AM »
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Flash it and you will know by lambda and corrections.
Will do. Do I need to change TVUB as well before this? Thank you for your help.
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« Reply #1120 on: October 24, 2018, 07:29:54 AM »
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Will do. Do I need to change TVUB as well before this?
Thank you for your help.
Somebody said TVUB no need correct up to 650cc. Check it and confirm here  Not at all.
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« Reply #1121 on: November 04, 2018, 07:49:36 AM »
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Hi guys, this is my first post here.
I have Volvo S60 with 2.0T LPT (CR 9.5:1) B5204T5 180hp engine. It was remapped to 230HP. It was driving very good, but only few miles after battery disconnect. With miles, the throttle response (and overall power feeling) was becoming more and more sluggish.
I've decided recently to upgrade engine with FMIC, TD04HL-16T turbocharger from 2.3 T5 and blue injectors from the same 2.3 T5. Then I (carefully driving) took the car to the tuner, who said that there's no problem to do such a remap for my bigger turbo and injectors. After few days I got the car with NO CHANGES in software at all. They said that car on this setup makes 1.1 bar boost, 266hp, 334Nm of torque, and that stage 1 remap that was still in ECU is perfect for that turbo, and I can drive with no worries. He also said "they wanted to make more power but weird things (?) were happening to boost pressure above 1.1 bar."
So... I know that this is BS. And literally no one in my country just wants to do such a remap for Volvos. They only do remaps on stock cars with stock components. When it comes to do something more complicated, they don't want to.
Car runs, it hasn't exploded yet, but boost increases almost instantly to 1.1 bar. There IS more power of course, but there's torque intervention frequently. Also AFR is 14.7 at all loads/rpm which I checked with borrowed Innovate wideband o2 sensor. Fuel trims oscillate near zero, so no limp mode or check engine light.
So! I have to do it all myself. I've downloaded 1024kb .bin file via MPPS to my PC and start learning about how to find maps, etc.
Firstly I found LAMFA, and edited it to 11.8 at high loads, just to drive more "safe". What should I do next? LDRXN 6x16 (Volvo version) is maxed at 164, which corresponds to ~0.94bar boost. And on my boost gauge there's 1.1bar. Highest value in KFMIRL is 161. KFMIOP is untouched and goes to 40. Axis goes to 131. KFZWOP untouched.
KFLDHBN is maxed out flat - is it maximum boost limiter? KFFLLDE and KFFSLDE are weirdly flat. On other volvos it's not like that. KFLBTS - values are HIGHER THAN 1 on max loads. It's weird, or It's not KFLBTS map, maybe I'm wrong.
I guess I should lower KFLDIMX values to get my boost around 0.9 bar. I did it but needs tweaking. Then what? Raise KFMIRL and KFMIOP? only axis and leave Z values inside map? They go only to 39. When I raised that values to about 90, and corresponding axis to mach those maps, ECU entered limp mode with no boost at all.
I know i should log the car, maybe I will build some cheap logger in near future, but all help is welcome. Maybe I don't know what I'm doing.
Here is my original OLS file with all maps I have found, using S60R damos and other VAGs files. I started to learn about 2-3 weeks ago,from nothing so I'm not 100% sure. This is untouched stage 1 tune which i received from the first tuner. Second tuner didn't do anything to the file. Unfortunately I don't have original 180hp version.
Other 2 files are modified by my like I described. Thank you in advance.
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« Reply #1122 on: November 04, 2018, 08:52:24 AM »
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Two things to add: LDRXN is limiting rl_w which is not corresponding to any boost in general. It depends on engine, linearity, mods, calibration, etc I don't have it in my head exactly, but the name is something like KFLDMX or something like that. There is no S60R Damos available. It might be an OLS with manual defined maps or you are talking about S/V70T5 Damos which goes around. Generally you have chosen the hardest task to learn Volvo ME7. The engine has weakest internals, 16T is hard to control because of quick spool with the original calibration. So don't floor pedal under 3000 U/min until you read a lot more about the whole thing. Or somebody is brave enough to do this the remote way. BTW: which country are you talking about?
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« Reply #1123 on: November 04, 2018, 09:03:13 AM »
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Thanks for reply, I'm from Poland.
It's KFLDRX which I found in google.
The internals of this engine are not so weak like for example 2.5T, because of thicker cylinder walls. They are like in 2.3T. Only the piston stroke is short, so low "native" torque can be generated.
I mean that I have OLS file from S60R with manually defined maps.
I've already copied the KFLDIMX values from S60 2.3 T5 which comes from factory with 16T. And lowered them slightly. Boost is much better controlled now, I think. Goes linear with acceleration, don't just shoot up instantly.
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« Reply #1124 on: November 04, 2018, 10:36:56 AM »
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I have Volvo S60 with 2.0T LPT (CR 9.5:1) B5204T5 180hp engine. It was remapped to 230HP. It was driving very good, but only few miles after battery disconnect. With miles, the throttle response (and overall power feeling) was becoming more and more sluggish.
Interesting, my V70 2.5T -99 feels exactly the same way. Really nice response after battery/ECU-reset but then gradually gets more "tame". Could it be some kind of adaption? Btw, I'm also running a 16T and waiting to install blue injectors, just need to get my wideband installed and loggable first before I go play with KRKTE.
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