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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2013, 06:21:11 AM »

Who cares. If it has the O2 plugs, awesome, if not, you'll have to splice in one/two wires.
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« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2013, 09:15:11 AM »

It does not. Only AZB engined 551G box facelift S4s have rear O2 plugs.
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« Reply #62 on: May 23, 2013, 01:22:46 AM »

Ok sir, yes sir, of course sir. In case you didn't know, ELSAWin also lists an automatic transmission for the B5 RS4. Does that mean that yes there has 100% been one?
It is possible that the 551D I saw with rear O2 had A6 engine swap - but I am quite sure I had a car with 551D and rear o2's a while ago.

And I am talking about ETKA, not ELSAWin. ETKA does not list an automatic transmission for RS4 either.
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« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2013, 03:06:11 PM »

Bank 1 (green):
Address : 0x381116

To log AFR:
Factor : 0.009766
Offset : -9.6

Edit: if it wasn't obvious, these are both word variables

I'm having some trouble getting this to work properly.  When I log for AFR, I get goofy values that range from 9.6 up to ~12.1.  After installing the Zt-2, I confirmed that I'm getting ~2.5v on the white wire.  I also logged with the white wire disconnected and the value was consistently ~10.5. (Should that be right?)

Based on the above info, here's what I did:

Ran the white wire to the unplugged green O2 sensor connector (passenger side firewall)

Connected wire to the signal line, which is the female connector separate from the other three

Edited ME7L ecu file and added the following line:
;Name,    {Alias},                        Address,  Size, Bitmask, {Unit},        S, I,            A,     B, Comment
uushk_w, {O2SVoltageSensorWB}, 0x381116,    2,  0x0000, {WB-AFR} , 0, 0, 0.009766, -9.6, {}
 
Edited ME7L cfg file and added the following line:
;Name      [Alias]                     
uushk_w   AFR-WideBand

Any thoughts on where I goofed this up?
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« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2013, 03:28:54 PM »

The address is only valid for a specific software version.
If you are using a different software, you will need a different address.
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« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2013, 03:51:37 PM »

The address is only valid for a specific software version.
If you are using a different software, you will need a different address.

I'm running an M box build. Is that what you mean?  I'm still pretty new to this side of things so please point me in the right direction.

The value that gets logged changes based on whether or not the white wire is connected. I took that as a good sign that I was logging in the right place. Obviously I have something goofed up though because the values just aren't right.
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« Reply #66 on: May 27, 2013, 04:20:23 PM »

Zeitronix also changed the outputs over the years:

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/widebandoutput.shtml

Check and make sure that everything is set up properly in this regard.
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« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2013, 05:39:59 PM »

Check and make sure that everything is set up properly in this regard.

I should be all good here.  I have a 2010 model Zt-2 that was bought through the jfonz group buy last summer.  The AFR graph in the ZT software shows normal values.  Also, the output of the white wire is ~2.5v as it idles.

Assuming that the Zt-2 hardware is good up to the green connector, I'm either logging the wrong value or the signal is getting goofed up some other way. 

One thing that seems strange: The signal wire in the green connector is already at close to +5v just hanging open without the WB output attached.  Is that normal? 

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« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2013, 11:11:45 AM »


... also, anything in the rear O2 delete process that could be messing with me?

I used the Phila_dot template of:

CDKAT = 0
CWDLSAHK = 0
CDHSH = 0
CDHSHE = 0
CDLATV = 0
CDLASH = 0
CDLSH = 0
CDLSHV = 0
CLRHK = 5
CWKONLS = 17
ESKONF (10C7A)=192
ESKONF (10C7B)=255 (M-box)

I haven't done the newly added CLRKA yet.

Thanks.
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« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2013, 11:22:01 AM »

Nope...the variable we are using is voltage from the sensor before any ECU conditioning.

Can you explain the problem better?

You get stoich readings at idle, but strange readings during enrichment?

Have you compared ME7L logs to ZDL logs?

Have you tried using bank 2?
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« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2013, 12:16:18 PM »

... also, anything in the rear O2 delete process that could be messing with me?

I used the Phila_dot template of:

CDKAT = 0
CWDLSAHK = 0
CDHSH = 0
CDHSHE = 0
CDLATV = 0
CDLASH = 0
CDLSH = 0
CDLSHV = 0
CLRHK = 5
CWKONLS = 17
ESKONF (10C7A)=192
ESKONF (10C7B)=255 (M-box)

I haven't done the newly added CLRKA yet.

Thanks.

yo bud, have you reviewed the "dynamic range" of the sensor you are using?
i believe it's not the same as the range on which phila_dot calculated the multiplication/addition constants.


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« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2013, 12:37:39 PM »


Arrgh!  It was totally my bad. 

I went back through everything from square one and I realized that my ME7L cfg file was referencing a different ecu file than the one I was tweaking.

In the earlier version of the ecu file, I had entered the uushk_w variable but only for one byte, not two. That's why there was some effect, but the values were way off.

Once that was cleaned up, everything worked as it should.

Good stuff, now on to some WB logging!

Thanks for everyone's help.
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« Reply #72 on: June 04, 2013, 12:08:11 PM »

Here's a follow-up question now that I'm logging these values:

The graphs of WB data are not smooth at all.  I'm assuming this is normal.  I see that ECUxPlot offers a "Zeitronix Smoothing" option in the filter config.  I have to also assume that this is for merging native Zeitronix logs with ME7L logs. 

Are these assumptions correct? 

Also, a smooth line may be more aesthetically pleasing but does it really matter much from a tuning aspect?  I haven't done any WOT runs yet so I don't have much to go on, I'm just tying to get everything working properly before I do.

Thanks!
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« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2013, 01:06:01 PM »

Closed loop won't be smooth just because of the nature of narrowband lambda control.

WOT should be fairly smooth.
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« Reply #74 on: June 04, 2013, 01:13:54 PM »

The problem is that zeitronix RPM data isn't very clean (at least it isn't in my car).. its generally a huge mess... so yea, ecuxplot has smoothing functions so that the RPM data is easier to deal with when trying to overlay with me7l data...
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