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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2013, 06:23:34 AM »

Anyone?  Or is it secret dark magic?
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2013, 11:35:57 PM »

secret dark magic, I tried to get some feedback on whether I had my idb file created correctly and nothing nadda absolutely zero feedback...
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2013, 05:46:29 AM »

Lol, ok well I'm doing it the slow and hard way.  I would have been nice to find another defined idb file.  There is one on here for the RS4, have you seen that?
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I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2013, 09:00:33 AM »

I would contribute to this thread but i myself haven't really had time to add to the existing information that is available.

If i get to the point where i have a useful ida pro file, i will post it.

right now, it isn't much more than what you get if you use my autoit script...
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2013, 07:02:19 AM »

Thanks for the modded script, that's what I've got now as well....
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I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2015, 07:51:11 AM »

Thanks for the modded script, that's what I've got now as well....

One problem I have with sharing IDA data is that most people are not using legit copies of IDA so I can't open their databases. Since I'm always running the latest version people can't easily open mine. I'm getting into bosch but it takes time. If you're still screwing with the volvo database maybe I could look at an idc export but I haven't yet built a database of functions.
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2015, 08:06:04 AM »

Could you please confirm if this is working? I've thought about buying IDA pro a couple of years ago but can't afford to loose all the work I've done with the illegal IDA I'm using at the moment.
http://www.0xebfe.net/blog/2013/01/13/how-to-create-anonymous-ida-pro-database-dot-idb/
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2015, 11:42:27 PM »

Could you please confirm if this is working? I've thought about buying IDA pro a couple of years ago but can't afford to loose all the work I've done with the illegal IDA I'm using at the moment.
http://www.0xebfe.net/blog/2013/01/13/how-to-create-anonymous-ida-pro-database-dot-idb/

I pointed it out to Ilfak when it first came out a couple years back but he was already aware and I think appropriate countermeasures were taken. I have definitely seen databases that didn't seem to disassemble quite correctly on pirated copies yet mine did it perfectly. I think it's worth saving up for if you plan to be using it longterm. There are sometimes bugs or improvements in processor modules and those guys will often turn around a bug fix hours after I report it.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2015, 01:24:48 AM »

I pointed it out to Ilfak when it first came out a couple years back but he was already aware and I think appropriate countermeasures were taken. I have definitely seen databases that didn't seem to disassemble quite correctly on pirated copies yet mine did it perfectly. I think it's worth saving up for if you plan to be using it longterm. There are sometimes bugs or improvements in processor modules and those guys will often turn around a bug fix hours after I report it.
I've seen no problems in my non legit version but think it's fair to buy the product when starting to capitalise on the use of it.
What I do NOT understand and cannot accept in any way is that the legit program do not accept idb from pirated version. That must also be very counterproductive for hexray since many will stay away from legit since they cannot redo the hundreds of hours they might have done with pirated copy.
Of course I have no problem that they make it difficult to open a legit idb on a pirated .exe which they probably also do.
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2015, 08:46:59 AM »

I've seen no problems in my non legit version but think it's fair to buy the product when starting to capitalise on the use of it.
What I do NOT understand and cannot accept in any way is that the legit program do not accept idb from pirated version. That must also be very counterproductive for hexray since many will stay away from legit since they cannot redo the hundreds of hours they might have done with pirated copy.
Of course I have no problem that they make it difficult to open a legit idb on a pirated .exe which they probably also do.

Export the database to an idc using the pirate copy, then take your legit copy and import it. The way they prevent pirate versions from working with legit ones is that they keep updating the format. I've discussed the anti-piracy stuff with ilfak a lot over the years. I even asked if he would be willing to clear the pirate flag when a user goes "legit" but he wasn't keen on it. IDA Pro is a really good product and has absolutely no competition. It's his choice not to sell it to you.

I worked for law firms for many years and have seen businesses close because of pirates. What if someone gave away all the professional tunes ever developed. Why would anyone pay a professional to tune? In the IDA case I'm sure the only reason the tricore bugs got fixed is that paying users found them and asked. The owners of hex-rays are not millionaires either. It's just a couple of really smart guys in Belgium with families to feed.

As for hundreds of hours spent on your databases you have to be careful with a known pirate version because it might self-corrupt over time. A contractor turned in his work only as an IDC but when I compared the changes I found all sorts of stuff he didn't touch had been messed up. So I asked for his original idb. At that point I learned it was a pirated version. Hex-rays said something to the effect of guess guys who use pirated versions have a few surprises waiting.
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2015, 10:37:32 PM »

Export the database to an idc using the pirate copy, then take your legit copy and import it. The way they prevent pirate versions from working with legit ones is that they keep updating the format. I've discussed the anti-piracy stuff with ilfak a lot over the years. I even asked if he would be willing to clear the pirate flag when a user goes "legit" but he wasn't keen on it. IDA Pro is a really good product and has absolutely no competition. It's his choice not to sell it to you.

I worked for law firms for many years and have seen businesses close because of pirates. What if someone gave away all the professional tunes ever developed. Why would anyone pay a professional to tune? In the IDA case I'm sure the only reason the tricore bugs got fixed is that paying users found them and asked. The owners of hex-rays are not millionaires either. It's just a couple of really smart guys in Belgium with families to feed.

As for hundreds of hours spent on your databases you have to be careful with a known pirate version because it might self-corrupt over time. A contractor turned in his work only as an IDC but when I compared the changes I found all sorts of stuff he didn't touch had been messed up. So I asked for his original idb. At that point I learned it was a pirated version. Hex-rays said something to the effect of guess guys who use pirated versions have a few surprises waiting.

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noobs read this before asking http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=9014.0title=


ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
ORIGINAL Datalogger (Freeware) Author
ORGINAL finder of the 'extra' torque' limits
I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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