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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 11:54:06 PM »
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But retards appear at range axis which wasn't changed. I mean low load rpm. I just trying to find out how it can be related to retards.
I have no idea. You haven't posted any logs. When asking for help it's customary to provide the data necessary for us to provide that help. Just posting: "This doesn't work, why are there so many retards" (besides being hysterical I might add, thank you for that) will not get much feedback I'm afraid. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2013, 12:04:31 AM »
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I have no idea. You haven't posted any logs. When asking for help it's customary to provide the data necessary for us to provide that help.
Just posting:
"This doesn't work, why are there so many retards" (besides being hysterical I might add, thank you)
will not get much feedback I'm afraid.
Hi Daz! Unfortunately all my log files were converted for logviewer program. I'll use you tune file and write new log. Thanks! |
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 03:11:50 AM »
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we <3 them retardz
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I have no logs because I have a boost gauge (makes things easier)
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 03:19:23 AM »
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we <3 them retardz
What do you mean? |
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2013, 06:07:06 AM »
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What makes you think that the intervention is resulting from torque management?
Does zwist == zwopt during the ignition retard?
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2013, 06:28:04 AM »
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What makes you think that the intervention is resulting from torque management?
I think so because of several things: 1. Knock voltage is too low during the reterds (I mean not due to knock); 2. Retards appear at low and middle rpm range and low accellpedal position; And main thing - each time when I increased IRL and rescaled IOP retards were lower and lower until IRL raised to unreal values retards gone totally. Does zwist == zwopt during the ignition retard?
Practically all the time zwopt > zwist including during the retards. |
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2013, 09:41:13 AM »
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What do you mean?
Retards is a derogatory term used to describe mentailly handicapped people. The way you're using it is very funny. |
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2013, 10:39:49 AM »
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Retards is a derogatory term used to describe mentailly handicapped people. The way you're using it is very funny.
I have apricated your joke. |
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2013, 10:44:04 AM »
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Stupid question:
isn't not running at ZWOPT by definition torque intervention?
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2013, 03:36:55 PM »
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I'd say no,
there is no intervention occuring. Zwopt is just used as a base for determining current torque and to reduce torque when required.
Torque intervention, for the fast path at least, is when zwist=zwsol
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2013, 06:03:11 PM »
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reduce torque when required.
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Torque intervention, for the fast path at least, is when zwist=zwsol
you mean fast path torque intervention is when zwist<zwsol ? but technically, zwist<zwopt is torque intervention as well... just like maintaining torque reserve is technically torque intervention.. so its a semantic argument if you aren't using ME's definition of "torque intervention". I.e. the OP is saying that ANY time zwist != zwopt ME7 is "retarding" timing. I think his terminology leaves a lot to be desired... |
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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2013, 03:58:44 AM »
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you mean fast path torque intervention is when zwist<zwsol ?
but technically, zwist<zwopt is torque intervention as well... just like maintaining torque reserve is technically torque intervention.. so its a semantic argument if you aren't using ME's definition of "torque intervention".
I.e. the OP is saying that ANY time zwist != zwopt ME7 is "retarding" timing.
I'm little confused... As far as I understood I will have ignition retard always if zwist != zwopt but they always not equal. Also I've noticed ignitions retard mostly appear when zwsol > zwist. The screenshot here https://www.dropbox.com/s/kvwet2t8rsnchlb/ign_retard.jpg |
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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2013, 12:03:44 PM »
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Please don't move any changes. Run the file I uploaded. It's YOUR file to begin with. If you have issues, how will I know you found all of the changes?
Hi Daz! You helped me once again! Thanks a lot! With "your" file my ignitions retard not higher than 3.75 degrees and it happens pretty less times. Do you think my problem was in not rescaled KFZWOP/2 and MDS axises? |
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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2013, 12:23:41 PM »
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Torque intervention, for the fast path at least, is when zwist=zwsol
This is correct and what I meant to write. |
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