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« on: April 01, 2011, 05:04:31 PM »

Can someone explain how the relation of Load (ms/Umdr) and the MAF values (Kg/s) ?

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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2011, 05:41:46 PM »

Can someone explain how the relation of Load (ms/Umdr) and the MAF values (Kg/s) ?

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http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Load

Notice that ms/rpm is unitless.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 08:36:35 AM »

Well I wrote a full mesage, but it is beeing cutted !!!
Stdmass = Engine diplacement x density / Umdr... so that makes the load unitless (%)
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 08:38:26 AM »

Wiki states only Engine displacement divides by density !!!
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 12:12:57 PM »

Well I wrote a full mesage, but it is beeing cutted !!!

You know you can edit your posts, right?

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Stdmass = Engine diplacement x density / Umdr... so that makes the load unitless (%)

No. Standard mass is displacement * standard density, which is volume * density = mass. Sorry, the wiki has a typo, which I am fixing.

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Wiki states only Engine displacement divides by density !!!

That is STANDARD MASS.

Load is ingested mass/standard mass
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 07:22:13 PM »

I noticed if I wrote more than 3 lines and it
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 07:22:47 PM »

I noticed if I wrote more than 3 lines and it

Get a proper browser.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 07:23:22 PM »

Again... the message is beeing cutted  Undecided no edit button

Lets see if with Mozilla it goes rigth

yes !! huahuahua

Well... now it´s rigth, there was an error in Wiki (2 acctually in explaining because you have to state that Std ir per unit of revolution - Umdr, but it´s kind of obvious)
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 07:26:13 PM »

Again... the message is beeing cutted  Undecided no edit button

It should be right next to the "reply" link --- "modify"
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2013, 03:26:20 PM »

Hello,

i must push the thread.

Load calculate in % is no problem, but how ca i calculate the Load for a M3.8.x ECU?

The value is "ms/umdr.".
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2013, 05:50:11 PM »

From a slightly older version of Motronic but it should give you an idea.

                mL (UHLM)
tL[ms]= ---------------- * KFUH
                 n * K1

mL = Luftmasse [Kg/h]
n = Motordrehzahl [1/min]
K1 = Konstante

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2013, 06:32:38 PM »

In older motronic load is related to injector pulse, that is related to torque... the time you get lambda =1,

Your fuel trim tables makes richer or leanner (more or minus than 128 that is the standart for lambda =1)
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2013, 04:28:03 AM »

What´s KFUH? I can´t find it in my M3.8.2.

I search the way to relate Air Mass to ms/umdr.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2013, 10:51:26 AM »

You must look at grundampassungskonstante (KHFM) Kg/h x min/ms
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2013, 01:42:45 PM »

Sry, but i don´t understand this.

look at my attachment, pleace.

It´s my Value ( 32895 ) on KHFM right? Is it, how can calculate ms/umdr. with it?

Kg/h * 32895 , 32895 * Kg/h, 32895 * Kg/h * min/ms, ....

I become never a valide ms rate betwen 4-12 ms.. Always i get stuff...

Can me explane anybody this on a example pleace?
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