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« on: May 05, 2011, 07:18:04 PM »
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Is there any version at all that will work on XP? My laptop doesn't have the cajones to run Vista or Windows 7. :-(
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 07:49:40 PM »
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Is there any version at all that will work on XP? My laptop doesn't have the cajones to run Vista or Windows 7. :-(
Nope.... but what I found is that my WinXP laptop runs win7 exactly the same as XP used to run. Win7 is REALLY well put together OS unlike Vista junk. |
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 08:20:07 PM »
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ok thanks. I'd like to use NefMoto but if I upgrade to Win7 I'm afraid most of the rest of my goodies I've loaded onto my laptop may stop working properly. :-( Plus I'd have to buy Win 7.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011, 11:58:18 AM »
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I need to rewrite one of the core NefMoto libraries to support Windows XP. I want to do it, but other stuff keeps coming up.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2011, 02:53:52 PM »
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Windows 7 scales really well with what ever equipment it runs on. The other bonus is majority of laptops and pc's over the last few years are more than capable of virtualization and running a virtual Windows XP environment from within Win 7.
Couple that with compatibility mode and pretty much anything you could do with XP you can do with Win 7.
Vista was pish... Win 7 is what Vista should have been but Microshaft got greedy and released a sub par OS.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 10:58:29 AM »
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I need to rewrite one of the core NefMoto libraries to support Windows XP. I want to do it, but other stuff keeps coming up.
Tony, can you give a hint, what kind of lib or API it actually is that changed from XP to Vista? |
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 12:58:40 PM »
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Crypto API to CNG
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2011, 05:52:33 AM »
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sort of Crypto API is needed?
ok, I noticed this bcrypt.dll, but not sure why you need this?
calculating checksums or hashes for KWP2000 communication?
just curious...
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2011, 12:24:44 PM »
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The entire NefMoto application is encrypted so that you can't just dump the .NET byte code and export it to source code.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 07:32:20 AM »
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ok, so its the protection of the tool intself that makes it unusable for XP... :'( that do not surprise me inside a comminity thats alive due to reverse-engineering  ok, understanding an ECU that would be 100% MSIL is a dream... Running an encrypted CLR wrapper/host is not that easy to implement without CNG? |
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2011, 10:54:08 AM »
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It's definitely an interesting task writing a close source tool for a community based on hacking and reverse engineering.
Once I get a version of the data logger released, I will be switching from CNG to another cryptography library that will work on XP. I will probably use something like Blowfish, OpenSSL, etc.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 09:01:07 PM »
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Tony,
How's that data logging software coming along? Can't run your Nefmoto on my laptop yet due to it's running xp for other software for other things. Lots of FPV, other data logging equipment and camera footage among other things as well.
I wait till the day I get to install Nefmoto on my Xp laptop. The only thing holding me back from going over to Windows 7 is that my laptop doesn't support Virtual OS for XP.
If you ever have a beta version for testing, I'd like to help with testing it out. Just shoot me a PM sometime.
Chris
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2011, 11:50:50 AM »
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Going to start the work tomorrow, for getting the quick and dirty first version of the data logger setup. Will try to get XP support done after that.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2011, 05:05:56 AM »
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The Datalogger will be also protected with CNG and Vista or later?
Will that logger be tied to VAG specific MWB or also for common OBD values?
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2011, 08:50:57 AM »
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For OBD, you need to know the extended PID's and their conversions... which isn't something that's available without spending a ton of money (read: paying ransom to the OEM for it) or buying a tool with those capabilities and then reverse engineering it with a logic analyzer.
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