I recently purchased a 2000 Audi 2.7T and I was floored at the price of the APR chip.  $600....WOW   Neeless to say,  I"m excited to find this site.

I have a lot of experience of tuning with Tuner Pro.  I had a 1993 stock GMC Typhoon with water injection.  I had a PLX WBO2 plugged into the ECM for tuning and  She ran a 12.2 @ 109 mph    I used a standard EEPROM chip with a chip burner that I would physically remove and then edit the bin, then put the bin on a physical chip, then install the chip and do a data run.  I would repeat this process till I had achieved my best time of 12.2. 

So, that being said, the Audi software is flashing the ECM...something I have no clue as of yet how to do. 
I was hoping to find a thread of how to's & definitions of some of the terms and things needed to get started.

I have some questions regarding Nefmoto and tuning my Audi.  I plan on doing a lot of homework and using hte search button a lot, however, I woudl appreciate some help figuring out some of this stuff.  I hope to contribute to this community as I did the GMC Typhoon/Sylcone/Buick Grand National fourm

Bricking?
How to flash?
Where to find XDF files and stock bin's for my Audi.
I assume you use Tuner pro to do data runs so you can look at the file to see what the car is doing.....
Can I plug in a PLX WBO2 to the ECM to read readings  on my Audi?  Typhoon was easy to do. Audi...different animal so far ;(
Best priced and best preformance cable to purchase?

I found with my Typhoon that I would look at RPM, MAP values, Knock, Timing advance, O2 sensor readings and/or WBO2 to tweak the bin to get the car to max boost with max timing and ZERO KR.  Once I found this combo for 20-22psi, I backed off the boost and slowly increased timing. Some do it the otherway around, low boost & increase timing.  Eitherway, the goal was ZERO KR and max efficiency of the turbo.

Thanks for the reply.

I need a how to from the begining

Not sure how to "flash" the ECM.

Connecting takes a cable/laptop and I assume NefMoto software.
Flashing I assume is loading the bin into the ECU electronically instead of the way I did on my Typhoon (burn chip in the pocket programer2 then remove & physically install into the ECM)

Data run.  I assume through tuner pro data log with CSV file....right?
Editing via Tuner Pro....I KNOW THIS
and then loading the bin into the ECU.

XDF File for the 2K Audi 2.7T and stock bin location?
I" also wondering if there are any comparable APR stage 1 bins available?  I"m not planing on starting there with that bin, I just want to see where they tweaked the tables and what I can do differnt or better
Right now, I"m a baby trying to walk in a differnt language. 

Thanks for the help.....I'll be running in no time

While I get the allure of wanting to see what others are doing, it won't help you I'm afraid. Other than the fact that everyone does things differently, Most commercial companies tend to move and encrypt things, so disregarding the moral implications, it's still not practical.

Read the S4 tuning wiki. That'll give you a good start

http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning

OK, avoid tuner pro bins?  I"m a bit confused on that one?  If we are using tuner pro as our bin editior, which bin should we use?

Like I said, new to tuning the Audi's, not new to tuning. 

Also, PLX WBO2......can we plug this into our ECM???

Thanks everyone for the responses

I may just use the stock O2 sensor to tune.  If I were to do upgrades such as larger turbo, injectors &/or alky, then I would plug in my PLX WBO2 kit.  I plan to use the O2 mv with KR to get the best tune for my stock Quattro. If I can get close to the APR stage 1, i'm happy with that amout of power. I considered using The Devils Own Injection alky again for my Quattro, but there is no where to put the kit   Tight fit!!!  Anyway...

Another question.  Code 59.org is where a lot of Buick GN guys and SyTy's share bins.  So, say a guy gets a good tune for a stock truck, or specefic combo's of turbo's and injectors.  We label the bin and the mods and AFRs and such.  Share them and others can use them as a starting point.  Do we have anything like that here?  Wondering if any Audi stuff is on Code59.org?  I've yet to search for any Audi stuff on that site...it's home to me       I plan on doing a lot of searching soon. I hust have so many questions and you guys have been great answering them;)    Today,  I just did my CV shaft boots today on my Audi. I'll do the CV shafts in the winter.  I've got a TON of house projects this summer, hence why I just changed my CV boots.  New grease, no more chatter, so it will do for the summer.   Anyway..Man...I"m BEAT!  Been working my butt off at work/OT and the new Audi.

Crap..got off topic.....Squirl.....  Running on 2 hrs sleep and ready for bed.....

ON TOPIC.   Does anyone here frequent code59.org and bin sharing?  I ran a few other guys bins on my Ty.  I mixed and matched by using the compare fcn.  That did help me get to the perfect tune a lot faster than doing it completely by my self.  I did find that one tune that was "perfect" for one car is by no means perfect for another.  But for certain Combo's such as a 20g turbo and 42lb injectors, that was always nice to have a starting point.

Looking foward to doing some searching and chatting with everyone about tuning Sorry if I rambled, was up all night @ work, stayed up today & worked on the new car..Time to bed

did you miss that giant section that says tuned ecu files?

or this part as well:

You'll ALWAYS want to tune with a wideband if you have it. You'll just have to log it separately. ECUxPlot has a way to overlay ME7L logs with Zeitronix logs, but I dont have PLX support. I can probably add it if you want. When you are ready, send me both logs.


ME7.1 uses both MAF and MAP (technically, it is not a MAP, though,  the boost sensor is upstream of the throttle plate).

The MAF is used for fueling (and of course, calculating load, which is used everywhere in ME7), the MAP is used for boost control.

If you are unfamiliar with torque based EFI systems, you are going to want to do a lot more research before even attempting to tune ME7.

The M-box XDF will work with an L-box file.

You are going to need to find out what box you have.

this link:

http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Tuning_your_ECU

tells you to read this:

http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Generations

You did read both, right?


http://s4wiki.com/wiki/ME7.1

Again, don't even DREAM of starting any ME7 tuning until you know what that phrase means

There are a ton of self-study guides posted on this forum.

Also you're going to want to pick up a few EFI books (general, not ME7 specific) from Amazon. I can give you a short list of recommendations if you like.