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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2014, 06:45:50 AM »

I had success and now have a bin file on my c drive!!
Almost anti-climatic it went so fast.
So now, to figure out how to attach it on here for other viewing pleasure?
I understand thanks to replies, that this will just get me into the eeprom via hex editing to eliminate immo, but I will still have to pull the flash to get into the other functions, but very cool.
Can i use this configuration to pull my flash instead of waitng till its back in the car? pull my flash in bootmode, as it were?
Thanks for the help senior members.. Teaching an old dog new tricks..
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2014, 07:22:20 AM »

So my ecu is a Bosch 06A 906 032 DL
Benzin me7.5 c2-3 0003

Do I need to install memory layouts and ecu maps prior to reading and copying my flash?
Should I be getting out my loupe to read chip numbers and such?
Thx a million..
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2014, 07:45:36 AM »

Went ahead and tried to use my set up and nefmoto with power on, but not in boot mode.
Was able to read ecu in slow init, read dtc's and save them, read and save the 4 ecu entries, hardware number, software, calibration date, and equipment, all in standard session.
Switched to programming session and hit precondition issues with immo not authenticated, so I cancelled.
Not sure yet what I saved and what I need, but it works,, now to work with it..
I assume I need to disable immo and re flash that before this next step will work?
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2014, 07:51:37 AM »

Am I missing something?
I have read on the wiki's the syntax I'm looking for to view and or edit my sai, evap values, but don't know how to get things to open in tunerpro, just hex editor.
I have the boot bin immo'd out thanks to member Marty, and I was able to read and save my original flash with help from turb, as well as DDillenger and other thread I read along the way. Thanks for the help on the above.
But it looks like the definition files are required to map my flash in english? Tuner Pro looks to be able to read the XDF from the ecu, but when I load the saved bin file it always asks for the location of the XDF on my C drive, which I don't have yet.
I'm almost ready to try to start this car, have buttoned up the ecu itself and am jut firming up it's location in the rain tray.

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Any help, yet again, is gratefully appreciated in pointing me down the right path.
Cheers.
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2014, 08:24:05 AM »

There are different versions of the software and all may not match. Use this one with this xdf.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2014, 05:41:42 PM »

Thanks yet again sir. Smiley
I will make a copy right away and start to learn.
Is this bin the stock one you gave me in another post or is this the one I pulled from my ecu? Just asking because it really worked well on the car before I pulled the engine.
Appreciate the help. Giving me the tools to help myself.
Thanks.Scratch the above question, I see them both in tuner pro and am running comparison, it looks like you gave me my original.
Thanks again.
Will be a late night playing now I can see. Looking at the scalers now, CDATS is set to zero, CDATR as well. I see my vnmx is different than stock, TNMXH as well.
Cool..
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2014, 09:03:38 PM »

Got the rest of the wiring installed today, and the ecu as well.
Tried plugging in via the new obd2 connector in the car and good to go.
Vag read my engine and showed some codes. Then I tried nefmoto and was able to poll the ecu information so think I'm good there too!
Awesome.. Grin
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2014, 09:21:13 AM »

Hi, been playing with tunerpro and my bin file today instead of working.
As per below I have opened my hex editor to get to MSLUB (0x1A968) and see it's a value of 06 currently. Do I change that to 00 to get my readiness to pass?
And as from the scaler drop downs in tunerpro do I just change the values on CDSLS and CWKONABG to 0.0 as well? CDSLS is already at 0.0, ABG is 5.0.
Any checksum worries if I change the fields?
And regarding Evap, as per the wiki I should be looking for the following: CDLDP - Eurobyte - LDP Diagnosis, CDTES - Eurobyte - EVAP diagnosis, CLATEVE - EVAP plug, or CLALDPE - LDP plug but I don't see anything with those scaler names.
Hopefully I will be able to edit the above and be in a position to start the car this week.
Thanks again for all the help..
Mike

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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2014, 09:41:36 AM »

Assuming you have oil and coolent, I'd go ahead and start the car up,troubleshoot the install before you get too worried about the map - and this way you know any issues you have are due to the install/wiring/engine, rather than a software change you've messed up.

Mine has done 400 miles with the n80, lambda 2, etc codes on, going pretty nicely so far Smiley

Any pics of the rest of the project btw? I've been toying with fitting my spare AGU into a corrado, always wanted one and never quite managed to scratch that itch.
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2014, 03:10:51 PM »

Good call on that, so I tried to turn her over tonight. She turned over, but did not start. Sad
I think there may still be some wiring amiss at the fuse panel. When I first turned the key there was a relay buzzing rather sickly which didn't make that noise before. Also  there are a few wires still cut from the fusebox I was hoping were redundant, but maybe not.
If I pull my dtc's now, will they help to pinpoint why I have no spark yet? Clutch switch isn't connected yet either but I thought she would idle without that.
I have posted the saga on this car on
http://www.corrado-club.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=109394#109394
Very close to being reborn, but not quite there.. I replaced my spark loom while she was out as the wires were quite brittle and opted to use splices instead of pulling right to the pins, hope I didn't f--k that up.. First the obvious stuff though before I go worst case in my head..
Thanks for the help along the way, and any tips to troubleshoot from here.
Cheers.
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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2014, 03:30:17 PM »

Defo worth pulling the fault codes, post them up and I'll take a look in the morning. How have you wired it? Spliced the donor loom into the corrado fuseboard? Is your fuel pump powering up? If you stick some volts up the ecu switched bus (that powers stuff like the fuel pump, lambda, etc) you should be able to hear the fuel going through the lines under the bonnet.

Auq will run without clutch switch, assume yours will too.
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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2014, 03:57:50 PM »

Really, really appreciate the help Turboat. Owe you and Dillenger a test drive, and a cold beer. Grin
I purchased a swap loom from Dave at Stancedubs in Montreal that ran between the original mk4 engine loom and the back of the corrado fuseblock, replacing fuse bundles F, G1, and G2. It spliced into the white, black and orange connectors on the mk harness, a new cable was also supplied for between the dbw peddle and the blue harness connector. Is a very slick harness, but I had to cut a few other wires on the fuseblock to fully disconnect those three. I think one must have been a main power still. Just finished pulling the codes, see below text;
Monday, 14 July 2014, 18:30:48

VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-S



Control Module Part Number: 06A 906 032 DL

  Component and/or Version: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0003

           Software Coding: 07500

            Work Shop Code: WSC 66565

15 Faults Found:

17705 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!)

        P1297 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17704 - Error in Mapped Cooling System (usually temp Sensor or Thermostat)

        P1296 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17645 - Fuel Injector for Cylinder 1 (N30): Open Circuit

        P1237 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17647 - Fuel Injector for Cylinder 3 (N32): Open Circuit

        P1239 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17648 - Fuel Injector for Cylinder 4 (N33): Open Circuit

        P1240 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17646 - Fuel Injector for Cylinder 2 (N31): Open Circuit

        P1238 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30: Voltage too Low

        P1602 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

16622 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31): Signal too High

        P0238 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17951 - Angle Sensor 1 for Throttle Actuator (G187): Signal too Small

        P1543 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17580 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle Actuator (G188) Signal too Low

        P1172 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17987 - Throttle Actuator (J338): Adaptation Not Started

        P1579 - 35-00 - -

17072 - ECM Power Relay Load Circuit: (J271): Open

        P0688 - 35-00 - -

18057 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ABS Controller

        P1649 - 35-00 - -

18058 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Instrument Cluster

        P1650 - 35-00 - -

17931 - Crash Signal from Airbag Controller: Implausible Signal

        P1523 - 35-00 - -

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I'm hoping a lot of these will go away once she actually runs, no airbags, and I know the coolant lines are still open as Im waiting for a new electric fan, but those first ones sure point to a main miss on either the fusepanel, or the block side of the wiring.
Again, any help in where I should be looking, gratefully appreciated.





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« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2014, 04:16:44 PM »

Ok, hit clear codes, see what comes back, try and start it, then see what comes back. You often get a stack of phantom codes when you first wire stuff up.

My bet is you are missing the feed that powers up the injectors, fuel pump etc. dumb question - are you sure you have all the earths connected?

btw, the y pipe coming off the manifold is the vaccume pip that goes to the brake servo, if you have to extend it, make sure you use suction hose. It'll run like crap if you leave that open, at least bung it up for testing.

Happy to help out, if I'm passing anytime I'll take you up on that beer Smiley Canada is pretty small, right?  Wink
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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2014, 07:51:36 PM »

Rechecked my grounds and general routing. I did miss a ground on one of the bundles near the battery and reconnected it.
I cleared my codes and tried to start again, no luck. Rechecked my codes and they are all gone except ECM power relay load circuit, p0688 and throttle actuator adaptation not started.
So, I go back pull more covers and look some more. There is a single purple/black wire on a connector that connects to a single red/white wire under the battery, that was connected, but not clicked tight.

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I think, that's it and reconnect it tight, still won't start. Now when I retry to run my codes it can't connect. I try nefmoto, it won't connect either.. WTF, I disconnect the single connector I just reconnected and vagcom reconnects but same two codes. Too dark and to frazzled for tonight. But something is still not right..
Cheers.
Edit: that purple wire goes to the coil pack, white/red one from the harness and I presume 12vdc. Weird that when its connected I can't read my ecu.
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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2014, 08:31:53 PM »

Hey guys you know what makes great divorces like great running cars? Good grounds.
Seems one in the rain tray still had paint enough to really give a high impedance to my ecu main cable when I started ohming stuff out tonight. Long story short, she runs.
http://youtu.be/CWSOSpxpMAE
Next up is figuring out why the alternator isn't putting out a charge and wait for my slim electric fan to arrive. Then I can get the exhaust done and replace the o2 sensors and clear codes once more and really stat to talk tuning.
Thanks for the help along the way..
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