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« Reply #465 on: May 04, 2019, 01:02:51 AM »

I tried the same on my 2.8 VR6 24v MK4 AUE. Managed it to disable the fuel cut, but it wont do the ignition retard. Did the definitions on my own. Maybe I missed a map or defined something wrong.  Sad

I changed the following maps:
CWSAWE at 114E9 set to 1
KFNWEGM at 195DA set last 2 columns to 6480,0 rpm
KTVSA at 19602 set last 2 columns to 2,4000 s
KFZWOP at 11777 reduced first 2 rows from 2520,0 to 6520,0 by -10 (also tried -16 but no success)
KFZWOP2 at 11827 same as KFZWOP
KFZW at 1230F same as KFZWOP
KFZW2 at 123CF same as KFZWOP
KFZWMN at 120CD  set first 2 columns from 2520,0 to 6520,0 to -18 (also tried -28 but no success)

I attached my original and modified .bin files. Would be grateful for any help.  Huh
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« Reply #466 on: May 06, 2019, 04:43:28 AM »

Hello,

can some one help me to add pop and bangs to this ecu? I cant find KFZWMN map, maybe this ecu dont have it?



Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #467 on: May 07, 2019, 03:57:16 AM »

Hello,

can some one help me to add pop and bangs to this ecu? I cant find KFZWMN map, maybe this ecu dont have it?



Thanks in advance.

There's 2 maps that look like KFZWMN at address E42D3 and E4393, KFZW follows just after.
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« Reply #468 on: May 07, 2019, 05:48:34 AM »

There's 2 maps that look like KFZWMN at address E42D3 and E4393, KFZW follows just after.

I think at those addresses are:
E42D3 - KFDWSZ - delta Zündwinkelkennfeld für selektive Zündverstellung
E4393 - KFDWSZU - delta Zündwinkelkennfeld für selektive Zündverstellung bei umgeschalteten Saugro

or i am wrong ?
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« Reply #469 on: May 09, 2019, 02:19:00 AM »

Hello all,

I have successfully implement this function on lift off condition.

Now I am looking to achieve some bangs during gear change with dsg gearbox. I keep hearing some cars with a loud bang on chear change. Does someone already done it?
The idea to do it should be similar, retarding the ignition and letting fueling as it does standard during chear change event.
There are a few ignition maps only for gear change but I couldn't achieve this effect yet. Maybe a different ignition angle is needed for this.

I appreciate any input!

Thanks

If you're looking for big bangs while shifting you want ign cut and no fuel cut (many times used in race cars with dog boxes), but I dont think its a good idea doing that for a DSG box, what I know is that they use ign retard for shifting usually.
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« Reply #470 on: May 11, 2019, 01:38:25 PM »

Hello, thanks for your input.

You are right, this function is partially available on the Stock ecu since there is a 0.8s fuel cut delay which is the time for gear shift.
My idea is to use ign delay to achieve this. I have made some experiments but without success.

There are a few extra maps for gear change that I changed to around 20° btdc with no fuel cut.

Maybe someone has some advice.

I keep gear dsg cars with this function so I know it's possible
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« Reply #471 on: July 06, 2019, 10:30:22 AM »

Hi,
Can someone help me find CWSAWE in my bin? I've built a mappack for tuner pro which is quite good. I think I found cwsawe, but I'm not very sure of it - can someone confirm it's fine?
Thanks,
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« Reply #472 on: July 08, 2019, 07:20:42 AM »

I've trued all 00 bits after ecu number.... none did the trick.
However, I'm getting nice pops on 1st and 2nd on overrun, none in 3rd 4th or 5th. I get some pops though on downshifts from 5th to 4th and 4th to 3rd....
it's possible this bin is missing this function though...
I would like to have some pops on heavy upshift but I guess that requires nls right?
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« Reply #473 on: July 09, 2019, 01:59:34 PM »

I've trued all 00 bits after ecu number.... none did the trick.
However, I'm getting nice pops on 1st and 2nd on overrun, none in 3rd 4th or 5th. I get some pops though on downshifts from 5th to 4th and 4th to 3rd....
it's possible this bin is missing this function though...
I would like to have some pops on heavy upshift but I guess that requires nls right?

Have you checked your ignition timing on the moments you´r expecting the pops?
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« Reply #474 on: July 10, 2019, 05:46:10 AM »

Timing is exactly how I want it... I get the expected results. My problem is that my "poor" ecu is missing these: cwsawe, kftvsakat, tvsabte, tvsag0
So the only leverage to achieve my goal is timing and kftvsa...
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« Reply #475 on: July 13, 2019, 09:31:10 PM »

I'm in trouble too, I get some bangs, but I need to start the foot lightly on the accelerator, very difficult to find the TVSAG0 and the CWSAWE, Audi A3 1.8T AGU M3.8.3 06A906018CJ
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« Reply #476 on: August 01, 2019, 01:01:39 PM »

anyone able to help me locate KFNWEGM in this file

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4445.0;attach=28860
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« Reply #477 on: August 23, 2019, 02:44:24 AM »


No need to modify that map for pops & bangs
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« Reply #478 on: August 27, 2019, 01:58:11 PM »

Tried this to my car.Changed a few maps and have good results but not always.Sometimes i dont hear bang, sometimes is really good.What i want was bangs after 3k rpm. What i do is:
- KFTVSA - Everything to 1
- KFZWMN - First two rows changed everything after 3k rpm to -30
- KFZWOP - First two rows after 3k rpm - (value-30)

I have also launch control but not made by me, so KFTVSA was already changed all to 1, i didnt touch there. I also didnt touch CWSAWE and its stays at 0. What difference will happen if i change it to 1 ? Also im searching for KFNWEGM map. Read that some people have results only with KFNWEGM and CWSAWE to 1.
My questions are is this bad for engine and turbo ? After turbo i am with straight pipe. Also i found that with these settings car goes off more often.It was happen before too from the BOV but now its more often.
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« Reply #479 on: August 27, 2019, 03:11:28 PM »

Tried this to my car.Changed a few maps and have good results but not always.Sometimes i dont hear bang, sometimes is really good.What i want was bangs after 3k rpm. What i do is:
- KFTVSA - Everything to 1
- KFZWMN - First two rows changed everything after 3k rpm to -30
- KFZWOP - First two rows after 3k rpm - (value-30)

I have also launch control but not made by me, so KFTVSA was already changed all to 1, i didnt touch there. I also didnt touch CWSAWE and its stays at 0. What difference will happen if i change it to 1 ? Also im searching for KFNWEGM map. Read that some people have results only with KFNWEGM and CWSAWE to 1.
My questions are is this bad for engine and turbo ? After turbo i am with straight pipe. Also i found that with these settings car goes off more often.It was happen before too from the BOV but now its more often.

Certainly doesnt not preserve turbos but it does not hurt as much as LC or ALS. Also dont change KFZWOP .. its not an ignition map.
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