Pages: [1] 2
Author Topic: Looking for an .XDF definition file (2001 Audi A4 1.8T AWM)  (Read 12066 times)
Murph
Jr. Member
**

Karma: +12/-0
Offline Offline

Posts: 39



Very new to all of this an just trying to find a definition file so I can start at least browsing the bin files and get familiar. Any help is appreciated.  Grin
Logged

tjwasiak
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +26/-0
Offline Offline

Posts: 420


« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2015, 05:36:16 AM »

You should post exact ECU number - at least VAG one, but including version info because different software version could/would have different addresses.
Logged
Murph
Jr. Member
**

Karma: +12/-0
Offline Offline

Posts: 39


« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2015, 03:08:56 PM »

Sooo

Step 1. Get my ECU vag part number.. got it lol.. Thanks
Logged

nyet
Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +608/-168
Offline Offline

Posts: 12270


WWW
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2015, 03:10:04 PM »

Very new to all of this an just trying to find a definition file so I can start at least browsing the bin files and get familiar. Any help is appreciated.  Grin

Please obey the rules of the definitions board when posting there. Thanks!
Logged

ME7.1 tuning guide
ECUx Plot
ME7Sum checksum
Trim heatmap tool

Please do not ask me for tunes. I'm here to help people make their own.

Do not PM me technical questions! Please, ask all questions on the forums! Doing so will ensure the next person with the same issue gets the opportunity to learn from your ex
dope40
Jr. Member
**

Karma: +6/-1
Offline Offline

Posts: 42



« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2015, 11:22:06 AM »

you can use damos files ( because they are a lot of them on the net ) to make your own .XDF (but it takes some time )
just open them with text editor Smiley
Logged
Vollmer
Full Member
***

Karma: +14/-256
Offline Offline

Posts: 78

Professional Cat Herder


« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2021, 11:04:49 PM »

Will the "M box" aka manual S4 XDF work with the CH box BIN?

Where is the most updated 01 AWM XDF?

Logged

Volvo HALL of SHAME:

Guitar24t aka Robert Hilton
SparkyR aka Brandon Halme
Prometey1982 aka Artem Vasiliev
MAXX ECU - Brett Willet
VIDA Leach - David Leech

Useless Twats:
PRJ - Dmitri from Estonia
Vollmer
Full Member
***

Karma: +14/-256
Offline Offline

Posts: 78

Professional Cat Herder


« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2021, 11:22:52 PM »

I have a few KP files.. I can read the XDF in Notepad, and CSV in Excel, but what about the KP files?

Trying to come up with the most complete definitions file.. Trying to understand if I can flash a BIN with a newer software code...

360101 vs 360854

BTW.. XDF, KP and Damos are all terms for definitions files?
Logged

Volvo HALL of SHAME:

Guitar24t aka Robert Hilton
SparkyR aka Brandon Halme
Prometey1982 aka Artem Vasiliev
MAXX ECU - Brett Willet
VIDA Leach - David Leech

Useless Twats:
PRJ - Dmitri from Estonia
Vollmer
Full Member
***

Karma: +14/-256
Offline Offline

Posts: 78

Professional Cat Herder


« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2021, 11:25:45 PM »

Cant Edit:
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=17137.msg132290#msg132290

Used this persons XDF as a starting point, it is the newest by date..
Logged

Volvo HALL of SHAME:

Guitar24t aka Robert Hilton
SparkyR aka Brandon Halme
Prometey1982 aka Artem Vasiliev
MAXX ECU - Brett Willet
VIDA Leach - David Leech

Useless Twats:
PRJ - Dmitri from Estonia
Auriaka
Full Member
***

Karma: +17/-2
Offline Offline

Posts: 113



« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2021, 08:23:43 AM »

Glad it helped someone lol
Logged
Blazius
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +89/-40
Offline Offline

Posts: 1282



« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2021, 08:42:50 AM »

I have a few KP files.. I can read the XDF in Notepad, and CSV in Excel, but what about the KP files?

Trying to come up with the most complete definitions file.. Trying to understand if I can flash a BIN with a newer software code...

360101 vs 360854

BTW.. XDF, KP and Damos are all terms for definitions files?

Cant open KP files in notepad, since they are propertiary files.

You can flash newer software version.

IMO there is no point using the 018CH version unless you need the no immo function, else just crossflash to a file that has damos available.

Yes those terms are definition files, however a2l/damos files are semi official, the rest are manually created.
Logged
Vollmer
Full Member
***

Karma: +14/-256
Offline Offline

Posts: 78

Professional Cat Herder


« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2021, 05:13:36 PM »

Reiterating my understanding to confirm.

Cant open KP files in notepad, since they are propertiary files.

You can flash newer software version.
Flashing a 018CH 360854 bin on my 018CH 360101 ECU is fine.

IMO there is no point using the 018CH version ...of the XDF?  unless you need the no immo function, else just crossflash to a file that has damos (XDF?) available. I dont understand what you mean here.

Is there a public repository? Or where do you consider I search for available XDF/Bin Pairs.
Are you saying I can flash a 2.7T S4 Bin on my 018CH ECU to run my built 1.8T? It's an AWM in an 01, as the OP



Yes those terms are definition files, however a2l/damos files are semi official, the rest are manually created.
In what situation would I be lookgin for an actual "Damos" file? XDF goes with TunerPro, and KP files go with WinOLS.
Logged

Volvo HALL of SHAME:

Guitar24t aka Robert Hilton
SparkyR aka Brandon Halme
Prometey1982 aka Artem Vasiliev
MAXX ECU - Brett Willet
VIDA Leach - David Leech

Useless Twats:
PRJ - Dmitri from Estonia
Vollmer
Full Member
***

Karma: +14/-256
Offline Offline

Posts: 78

Professional Cat Herder


« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2021, 05:18:14 PM »

B5 S4 8D0907551M (M-box) ECU XDF and Bins seem public, but I havent seen many CH box Bin/XDF combos.

I bought a 15$ Vag Cord. Should I buy a spare ECU from the junkyard, plug it into my car and practice with that so I dont screw up the original?
Logged

Volvo HALL of SHAME:

Guitar24t aka Robert Hilton
SparkyR aka Brandon Halme
Prometey1982 aka Artem Vasiliev
MAXX ECU - Brett Willet
VIDA Leach - David Leech

Useless Twats:
PRJ - Dmitri from Estonia
Vollmer
Full Member
***

Karma: +14/-256
Offline Offline

Posts: 78

Professional Cat Herder


« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2021, 05:23:11 PM »

Original file = ".BIN" (ECU Data)
MapPack = ".KP" (Maps)
Damos = ".A2L" (Map & Axis Data)
WinOLS complete file = ".OLS" (Map & Axix Data & ECU Data)

I read that Damos require the Glass beads and secret handshake, as they are usually complete.

Do price and handshake complexity increase with more valuable mfgs? How much for a Gallardo Damos? I have a Huracan I might like to tune.  Grin

http://files.s4wiki.com/defs/

OK, Update.

Learned how to edit my posts, and learned people use Several XDFs over the same BIN. to find all the definitions... Kind of baffled there most common models arent well documented. Cant find CH Bin/XDF combos for the 01 AWM 1.8Ts.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2021, 06:07:23 PM by Vollmer » Logged

Volvo HALL of SHAME:

Guitar24t aka Robert Hilton
SparkyR aka Brandon Halme
Prometey1982 aka Artem Vasiliev
MAXX ECU - Brett Willet
VIDA Leach - David Leech

Useless Twats:
PRJ - Dmitri from Estonia
Blazius
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +89/-40
Offline Offline

Posts: 1282



« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2021, 06:12:34 PM »

There are bunch of a2l/damos files out there on the internet , pretty much for most of the cars but not all combinations or software versions, so IF you can you should always crossflash , specially on ME7 that has been around for 20 years.
If you got some exquisite car or something along those lines and you know there is a damos for it then ofcourse you can get into the secret stuff or just buy one.


The "box" nomenclature is mostly for the S4 ecus however CH box for the 1.8T is fine too, yes you can flash the 360854 on 360101 or vice versa. 018CH is the VAG part number of this box, 4B0906018CH.

This ECU and the 2 software versions came from the NA market , they do not have IMMO function in the code, which means if you cant be bothered to immo off the eeprom flashing this file will run the car, ofcourse the downside is that there is no damos out there in the wind. However like I said you are much better off immo offing the eeprom and flashing a file(1.8T ofcourse) that has a full definition available.

You can find original files here on the forum, in the ECU original files section, both of the 018CH software versions are out there, HOWEVER you cannot flash an S4 binary on your 1.8T ecu that should be obvious.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2021, 06:17:25 PM by Blazius » Logged
Vollmer
Full Member
***

Karma: +14/-256
Offline Offline

Posts: 78

Professional Cat Herder


« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2021, 08:00:35 PM »

There are bunch of a2l/damos files out there on the internet , pretty much for most of the cars but not all combinations or software versions, so IF you can you should always crossflash (Crossflash?) , specially on ME7 that has been around for 20 years.
If you got some exquisite car or something along those lines and you know there is a damos for it then ofcourse you can get into the secret stuff or just buy one.


The "box" nomenclature is mostly for the S4 ecus however CH box for the 1.8T is fine too, yes you can flash the 360854 on 360101 or vice versa. 018CH is the VAG part number of this box, 4B0906018CH. Right, This is the one I am working with. 01 A4 USDM 1.8T

This ECU and the 2 software versions came from the NA market , they do not have IMMO function in the code, (Immo is somewhere else? Or not present on USDM cars?) which means if you cant be bothered to immo off the eeprom flashing (Same as altering the .bin in Tunerpro?) this file will run the car, ofcourse the downside is that there is no damos out there in the wind.(No Damos or official definition for the USDM 1.8T Quattro?) However like I said you are much better off immo offing the eeprom and flashing a file(1.8T ofcourse) that has a full definition available.

I noted an Audi TT 1.8T Complete definition and "Damos" in the form of an .OLS.. Nothing I can use because I am using Tuner pro, so at most it can help me define XDF addresses in my .bin?

I didn't think an S4 flash would work, but I have heard people say the boxes are the same. So in what regard is a bit confusing. I know it has to be a DBW car flash, and IDK what other cars are acceptable. As such, I dont know what else to look for apart from the 01 AWM 1.8T Manual ECU XDF/Bin pair.


I dont know what I should be looking for. - and I havn't found one complete XDF file that is claimed to be complete.


You can find original files here on the forum, in the ECU original files section, both of the 018CH software versions are out there, HOWEVER you cannot flash an S4 binary on your 1.8T ecu that should be obvious.

Maybe I am not using the search function properly.. Should I type "018CH XDF" in the search tool on the left of the screen.?018CH


Here is a Stock . BIN file from Tony for these cars..
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=219.0

I am hearing about people bricking their ECUs trying to read cars that were previously flashed? Some encryption/ address shifting trick to keep people from reading a "commercial" tune? Not entirely familiar with this process.. Why does reading a previously "tuned" ecu cause a bricked situation?

I picked up this Car/ECU from a previous owner and suspect it has been messed with. What route should I go with to avoid possibly bricking it?

Should I flash it with the stock BIN from the beginning? Or should I read the flash and possibly brick it in the process?  Is this "bricked" situation something the Galletto 1260 + Boot mode is supposed to fix? Trying to avoid this situation.

The current "Tune" that came with the car, while removing some emission components, has significantly retarded timing. Led me down this rabbit hole. Been having dreams about this stuff I read about it so much.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=12043.0title=
Another Bin and XDF
« Last Edit: June 28, 2021, 09:02:06 PM by Vollmer » Logged

Volvo HALL of SHAME:

Guitar24t aka Robert Hilton
SparkyR aka Brandon Halme
Prometey1982 aka Artem Vasiliev
MAXX ECU - Brett Willet
VIDA Leach - David Leech

Useless Twats:
PRJ - Dmitri from Estonia
Pages: [1] 2
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Page created in 0.042 seconds with 17 queries. (Pretty URLs adds 0s, 0q)