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« on: September 06, 2015, 04:33:18 PM »
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 The correct initial point and final point of KFPED is in blue or red points? In %, whtats the better that i can increase for faster responses? (i run with 6% increase) Thanks for more one help!  |
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2015, 04:34:55 PM »
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Why the HELL are you graphing 3d graphs in 2d?
That crap is meaningless.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2015, 04:38:03 PM »
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Why the HELL are you graphing 3d graphs in 2d?
That crap is meaningless.
I don't understand the 3d map completely yet |
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2015, 04:41:01 PM »
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I don't understand the 3d map completely yet
If you don't understand the 3d map, you DEFINITELY don't understand it in 2d either. |
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2015, 12:10:31 AM »
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If you don't understand the 3d map, you DEFINITELY don't understand it in 2d either.
but just for increase more power in trottler i can make it on 2d? |
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2015, 10:47:00 AM »
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That is not the function of this map. You will not be making more powar, just bring it on more aggresively. It is a more of a taste thing.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2015, 11:40:22 AM »
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but just for increase more power in trottler i can make it on 2d?
Don't do any more tuning until you understand how maps work. Stop being lazy. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2015, 11:46:14 AM »
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That is not the function of this map. You will not be making more powar, just bring it on more aggresively. It is a more of a taste thing.
I understand! Realy, the car be more aggressively! Mainly in 1000rpm-2500rpm and after 4500rpm. I just need to know how much i can increases in this map (%) for best result! and in 2d map, just for clear my doubts... the map starts in red or blue points? I dount understand completyely the 3d map, but if my noob questions have been clarified, I will start learning the right way |
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2015, 11:51:19 AM »
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Don't do any more tuning until you understand how maps work. Stop being lazy.
Yes I agree with you! But i know thats a few maps works, i just dont know the address, initial and final points etc. the mostly maps, i dont know nothing  For me, i just need to learn increases the ignition timing (done), change the fuel on WOT (done), change fuel in idle (done), warm up map (learning) and driver power request (learning) Thanks for helping! |
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2015, 12:07:14 PM »
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Here is a picture of the 3D representation of that map.
Tell me, how are you going to modify this map using a 2D view?
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2015, 01:51:10 PM »
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Here is a picture of the 3D representation of that map.
Tell me, how are you going to modify this map using a 2D view?
Since i have problem with winols full, i just have the demo version, so i just increase in 2d mode.  its a example. I increase the map and change little things, all in 2d I need to learn to make it on 3D mode! Next step! |
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2015, 09:32:32 PM »
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Whats wrong with the text mode so you actually see your axis and changes you are doing? I am not the right man to tell you this but,
You should really stop this now, as it is wrong on many levels. Back too reading, like a lot of reading!!!
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2015, 12:11:31 AM »
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You shouldn't be changing the maps in 2D at all. You can use 3D to help you smooth an ALREADY existing curve, but not to recreate the wheel.
You do understand that the KFPED is the driver's requested torque - you could set it at 100% the whole way across so that any press of the pedal delivers WOT.
The map is just for taste - how you want the throttle pedal to feel when you press it.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2015, 07:47:19 PM »
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Whats wrong with the text mode so you actually see your axis and changes you are doing? I am not the right man to tell you this but,
You should really stop this now, as it is wrong on many levels. Back too reading, like a lot of reading!!!
yes, i'm Reading now, and i need to read more! in this Picture, i increase the ignition timing, is not correct? |
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2015, 07:51:38 PM »
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You shouldn't be changing the maps in 2D at all. You can use 3D to help you smooth an ALREADY existing curve, but not to recreate the wheel.
You do understand that the KFPED is the driver's requested torque - you could set it at 100% the whole way across so that any press of the pedal delivers WOT.
The map is just for taste - how you want the throttle pedal to feel when you press it.
I understand the KFPED map!! before i change, the pedal throttle has a delay, now have a instant response! more torque! |
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