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« on: October 07, 2015, 08:06:26 AM »

any chance the knock off knock off cables will get support? they use a different ch340 serial chip. works fine with vcds lite and the me7_95040 tool
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2015, 09:17:19 AM »

Jesus.
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2015, 09:38:30 AM »

No. Zero chance.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2015, 09:26:42 PM »

This is total BS, why should i have to buy a ftdi cable for 18 dollars when these perfectly good ch340 cables cost a whole 13 dollars.

5 DOLLARS! This free software cost me 5 dollars extra on hardware! Total scam.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2016, 09:35:07 AM »

Lol you are kidding me!  Undecided
5$ is nothing for software like nefmoto especially taking into account what other companies charge and all the time and research Tony's put in!

I'd suggest you read the forums properly....

Btw my very cheap non Ftdi chip blue cable works very well!
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 09:39:05 AM »

Lol sorry snow, I should have read your message in jest
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2016, 09:57:18 AM »

Lol sorry snow, I should have read your message in jest


It's all good... Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2016, 03:34:27 PM »

it was just a curiousity. money is no issue and i own ftdi cable. and develop software as well. no harm no foul sorry gents
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2016, 02:42:58 AM »

I can confirm that BMW diagnostic cable works with Nefmoto flasher. It has USB interface and is intended for model years 1996-2007. I'm reading and flashing my year 2000 A6 Allroad ECU 4Z7907551E.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2017, 05:47:47 AM »

Bought one of those CH340 by accident Sad
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 05:31:48 PM »

I'm not sure if the timing on CH340 is really bad or what, but I did some experiment the other day.

Ch340 - me7eeprom works in OBD, but not bootmode (iirc, can't remember 100%)
minimon doesn't work at all... connects but is unable to read things. Though maybe I was using it wrong, it was my first attempt, and it's not super intuitive. I figured it out eventually, just can't remember if that was before or after I came up with the next stage...

Later I mushed together a FTDI USB<->232TTL board and a L9637 (k line <-> 232) IC.
Me7eeprom works both modes
nefmoto flasher works kwp/boot (naturally, ftdi, it doesn't even try the others)
Did some bootmode dumps with minimon tool, all worked correctly. (can dump IROM in addition to flash)

Ill try again with CH340 now I know how to use the programs, and make sure, but I'm somewhat sure it was hardware problem.

I'm a bit leery of FTDI because there are so many clone ICs from china, and FTDI has taken some pretty unethical ways of dealing with it. (eg driver spits out "this isnt genuine" out the tx pin - that could break something.). They also charge an arm and a leg for genuine ones (like $10 for the IC alone on digikey, which is really robbery compared to what $10 of microcontroller buys these days).

For other applications I've been using CP2102 a lot, they're affordable, tiny, and silicon labs seems like a better organization than FTDI. Maybe I'll try it with minimon and see if it works well, too.
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