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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2015, 01:22:29 PM »
Quote from: adam- on December 09, 2015, 01:07:10 PM
Ask for lots of load.
Have sane timing values.
Have a good fuel table (lamfa, KFLBTS etc).
Ask for boost with ldrxn.

Log, done.


agreed.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2015, 04:11:04 AM »
ok..thanks for yuor reply guys...
I though I still have some doubts about the method of changing motronic in the sense that here in Italy with the most people I spoke to told me that increasing KFMIRL you add fuel ..
I read on the forum that increasing the target filling (KFMIRL) you must lower KFMIOP to avoid the intervention of the torque control and the closing of the accelerator but all Italian tuner with whom I spoke say they also increase KFMIOP because according to them makes this map increase the peak boost ...
I'm not understanding anything more ..
what do you think?
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2015, 04:57:07 AM »
Leave IRL and IOP the same, Bosch got it right from factory.  No % mods here.

Increase the LAST line on BOTH maps to 95% and 230%.  Adjust RXN to a common sense value (150 at low load, peaking at 220 at mid RPM, tapering/not tapering depending on turbo at the redline), 

With good amount of load and boost, add fuel.  Copy normal fueling maps.  Log.  I'm making this as simple as it can be. 
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2015, 09:43:43 AM »
Quote from: adam- on December 10, 2015, 04:57:07 AM
Leave IRL and IOP the same, Bosch got it right from factory.  No % mods here.

Increase the LAST line on BOTH maps to 95% and 230%.  Adjust RXN to a common sense value (150 at low load, peaking at 220 at mid RPM, tapering/not tapering depending on turbo at the redline), 

With good amount of load and boost, add fuel.  Copy normal fueling maps.  Log.  I'm making this as simple as it can be. 
Thank you very much adam this is already a good start ...
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2015, 06:26:44 AM »
maybe this has nothing to do with the tread but would like to ask more expert information about KFMSNWDK ..
1) comparing different file known that this map has differences .. the release of this map seems to be in kg / h but I did not understand what it does
2) in the truth of a car of a friend I tried to raise this map following the logic of a map with the most power and the result is that the car is accelerated
and the minimum pedal pressure gas rises even more speed ..
can someone explain to me why?
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2015, 06:52:17 AM »
Why did you change it if you don't know what it does?  You cannot just change maps with the reasoning "Well this other file has it, so it must be right".  Understand what you're changing, then change it, then log to make sure it's doing what you expected.

The map is measurement of airflow over the throttle plate.  A 15 second Google would tell you this.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2015, 08:35:56 AM »
Quote from: adam- on December 12, 2015, 06:52:17 AM
Why did you change it if you don't know what it does?  You cannot just change maps with the reasoning "Well this other file has it, so it must be right".  Understand what you're changing, then change it, then log to make sure it's doing what you expected.

The map is measurement of airflow over the throttle plate.  A 15 second Google would tell you this.
ok just what you say but if you mount a FMIC and from most press turbo do not need to edit this map?
files me7 180-225 hp these maps are different because I believe that the turbos are different K03> K04 and "slide" more air ..
how should I set the google search to understand this?
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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2015, 04:28:02 AM »
anyone?
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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2015, 11:23:02 AM »
Quote from: munro on December 12, 2015, 08:35:56 AM
how should I set the google search to understand this?

At this point you probably need to do more research on engine tuning, not google.
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