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dokalanyi
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« on: February 01, 2016, 02:30:41 AM »
Hey guys,
I generated an ecu file from a bin I read from my car.
I can connect with Me7Logger + GUI, and start logging when the car is off, ignition on. Most of the values are 0.
When I start the car, logging stops, and the car also turns off.
If I do it a couple of times, I get a "Start blocked by immobilizer error.

I can't connect when the car is already running. ecu is 4B0906018BD, on a 1.8T Passat APU (narrow band)
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2016, 02:53:58 AM »
Found that this is a common issue with the 1.8T, something about the instrument cluster. I'll keep reading the other threads
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2016, 03:06:42 AM »
Yup.  Start the car and then pull the cluster fuse so the needles die.  Should be able to connect then.  The immo thing is probably the logger overflowing the k-line and the cluster can't see the ECU, so blocks the start.

I've wired a relay to the front fogs (as R32 headlights don't have them), so I can kill the cluster without pulling a fuse. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2016, 03:57:57 AM »
Isn't a solution running a direct k-line?
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2016, 05:19:17 AM »
And then disabling the original at the same time?  Seems a bit convoluted.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2016, 08:20:52 AM »
What I am thinking to do is add a secound obd port with just k-line positive and ground.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2016, 01:18:34 PM »
But the k-line is just a bus, so all you're doing is just adding another OBD in serial and you'll still have the same issue.  No?
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2016, 06:21:06 PM »
something like this

Quote from: setzi62
I just did the following:
                                   ( whatever )   Switch          +-----+
  OBD-Connector O--------( is in    )---o____O---+---| ECU |
                                    ( the line )                   |   +-----+
                                                                      |
   NEW-Connector O---------------------------------'

Switch open   -> NEW connector can be used to communicate with ECU.
                       ORIG connector can be used to communicate with all other devices.

Switch closed -> ORIG connector can be used as previously.
                        NEW connector can be used for MONITORING the bus at ecu side.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2016, 10:23:13 PM »
Alright, will try this tonight. Although wiring up a new OBD isn't something I'm thinking of right now -- unless pulling the cluster fuse fails.
Also, nefmoto flasher logger works, but I'm not sure if there is a tool to convert the logs to csv so they can be read by ecux
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2016, 12:30:03 PM »
has anyone ever got this error?

sorry to hijack the thread i've just never managed to get mine connected at all.

tried different cables and laptops xp win7 etc always get the same error....

2013_v1.20\ecus\1.ecu .... done
Used Ecu definition is:
[Communication]
Connect      = SLOW-0x11
Communicate  = HM0
LogSpeed     = 56000

[Identification]
HWNumber           = "0261206795"
SWNumber           = "1037360313"
PartNumber         = "8N0906018H"
SWVersion          = "0004"
EngineId           = "1.8L R4/5VT"

Logged variables are:
#no.: name                , alias                           , addr  ,sz, bitm, S, I,  A         ,   B, unit
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#001: nmot_w              , EngineSpeed                     , 00F89C, 2, 0000, 0, 0,        0.25,   0, 'rpm'
#002: gangi               , SelectedGear                    , 380997, 1, 0000, 0, 0,           1,   0, 'gear'
#003: vfil_w              , VehicleSpeed                    , 381BC8, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0078125,   0, 'km/h'
#004: wub                 , BatteryVoltage                  , 3808B2, 1, 0000, 0, 0,      0.0704,   0, 'V'
#005: tmotlin             , CoolantTemperature              , 38489F, 1, 0000, 0, 0,        0.75,  48, '░C'
#006: tanslin             , IntakeAirTemperature            , 384899, 1, 0000, 0, 0,        0.75,  48, '░C'
#007: wped_w              , AccelPedalPosition              , 381C00, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0015259,   0, '% PED'
#008: wdkba               , ThrottlePlateAngle              , 3809AD, 1, 0000, 0, 0,    0.392157,   0, '% DK'
#009: ti_b1               , FuelInjectorOnTime              , 381F18, 2, 0000, 0, 0,  0.00266667,   0, 'ms'
#010: te_w                , EffInjectionTime                , 381F16, 2, 0000, 0, 0,  0.00266667,   0, 'ms'
#011: zwist               , IgnitionTimingAngle             , 00FA04, 1, 0000, 1, 0,        0.75,   0, '░KW'
#012: dwkrz_0             , IgnitionRetardCyl1              , 380A79, 1, 0000, 1, 0,        0.75,   0, '░KW'
#013: dwkrz_1             , IgnitionRetardCyl4              , 380A7A, 1, 0000, 1, 0,        0.75,   0, '░KW'
#014: dwkrz_2             , IgnitionRetardCyl2              , 380A7B, 1, 0000, 1, 0,        0.75,   0, '░KW'
#015: dwkrz_3             , IgnitionRetardCyl3              , 380A7C, 1, 0000, 1, 0,        0.75,   0, '░KW'
#016: wkrm                , AvgIgnitionRetardKnockControl   , 00F9D4, 1, 0000, 0, 0,       -0.75,   0, '░KW'
#017: rkrn_w_0            , KnockVoltageCyl1                , 384B52, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0195313,   0, 'V'
#018: rkrn_w_1            , KnockVoltageCyl4                , 384B54, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0195313,   0, 'V'
#019: rkrn_w_2            , KnockVoltageCyl2                , 384B56, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0195313,   0, 'V'
#020: rkrn_w_3            , KnockVoltageCyl3                , 384B58, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0195313,   0, 'V'
#021: fzabg_w_0           , CountMisfireCyl1                , 381844, 2, 0000, 0, 0,           1,   0, '#'
#022: fzabg_w_1           , CountMisfireCyl4                , 381846, 2, 0000, 0, 0,           1,   0, '#'
#023: fzabg_w_2           , CountMisfireCyl2                , 381848, 2, 0000, 0, 0,           1,   0, '#'
#024: fzabg_w_3           , CountMisfireCyl3                , 38184A, 2, 0000, 0, 0,           1,   0, '#'
#025: fzabgs_w            , CountMisfireTotal               , 381842, 2, 0000, 0, 0,           1,   0, '#'
#026: fr_w                , LambdaControl                   , 382708, 2, 0000, 0, 0, 3.05176e-005,   0, '-'
#027: fra_w               , AdaptationPartial               , 381F58, 2, 0000, 0, 0, 3.05176e-005,   0, '-'
#028: frm_w               , LambdaControlAvg                , 382704, 2, 0000, 0, 0, 3.05176e-005,   0, '-'
#029: lamfa_w             , TargetAFRDriverRequest          , 384AC2, 2, 0000, 0, 0, 0.000244141,   0, '-'
#030: lamsbg_w            , AirFuelRatioDesired             , 381F46, 2, 0000, 0, 0, 0.000244141,   0, '-'
#031: lamsoni_w           , AirFuelRatioCurrent             , 381B00, 2, 0000, 0, 0, 0.000244141,   0, '-'
#032: pu_w                , BaroPressure                    , 384A5E, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0390625,   0, 'mbar'
#033: fho_w               , AltitudeCorrectionFactor        , 384A56, 2, 0000, 0, 0, 6.10352e-005,   0, '-'
#034: ldtvm               , WastegateDutyCycle              , 380ABE, 1, 0000, 0, 0,    0.390625,   0, '%'
#035: mshfm_w             , MassAirFlow                     , 00F9A4, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0277778,   0, 'g/s'
#036: plsol_w             , BoostPressureDesired            , 381E60, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0390625,   0, 'mbar'
#037: pvdks_w             , BoostPressureActual             , 381E00, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0390625,   0, 'mbar'
#038: rl_w                , EngineLoad                      , 00F9B6, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0234375,   0, '%'
#039: rlmax_w             , EngineLoadCorrected             , 382330, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0234375,   0, '%'
#040: rlmx_w              , EngineLoadSpecified             , 382332, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0234375,   0, '%'
#041: rlsol_w             , EngineLoadRequested             , 381EB6, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0234375,   0, '%'
#042: tabgm_w             , EGTModelBeforeCat               , 3849CE, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0195312,  50, '░C'
#043: tats_w              , EGTSensor                       , 384B16, 2, 0000, 0, 0,   0.0195312,  50, '░C'
Logged data size is 74 bytes.
Really logged are 41 entries with 74 bytes.
FTDI library version 30207
Start connecting to ECU at 02.02.2016 18:17:10.077
try connect slow(11)
try connect slow(11)
Could not connect
try connect slow(11)
18:17:15.582-216,3 os_setspeed(speed=10400)
18:17:15.583-136,3 os_receiver_off()
18:17:15.884-386,5 os_setbreak()
18:17:16.084-386,7 os_clrbreak()
18:17:16.284-386,8 os_setbreak()
18:17:16.484-387,0 os_setbreak()
18:17:16.684-387,1 os_setbreak()
18:17:16.884-416,6 os_clrbreak()
18:17:17.084-387,4 os_setbreak()
18:17:17.284-387,6 os_setbreak()
18:17:17.484-387,7 os_setbreak()
18:17:17.684-387,8 os_clrbreak()
18:17:17.685-329,9 os_receiver_on()
18:17:17.686-477,2 ftdi_purge_rx() flushed 3 bytes
18:17:18.187-339,0 os_rcvbyte(timeout=500) -> TIMEOUT
try connect slow(11)
18:17:18.188-733,4 os_setspeed(speed=10400)
18:17:18.190-940,9 os_receiver_off()
18:17:18.492-109,7 os_setbreak()
18:17:18.692-109,1 os_clrbreak()
18:17:18.892-109,2 os_setbreak()
18:17:19.092-109,4 os_setbreak()
18:17:19.292-109,5 os_setbreak()
18:17:19.492-109,7 os_clrbreak()
18:17:19.692-109,8 os_setbreak()
18:17:19.892-110,7 os_setbreak()
18:17:20.092-110,8 os_setbreak()
18:17:20.292-110,3 os_clrbreak()
18:17:20.292-981,2 os_receiver_on()
18:17:20.294-101,4 ftdi_purge_rx() flushed 3 bytes
18:17:20.795-246,9 os_rcvbyte(timeout=500) -> TIMEOUT
Could not connect
=> Could not connect to ECU, exiting ...
=> Logging failed
exiting (cause=0x4)...
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2016, 12:42:54 PM »
Try a lower baudrate, unplug cluster fuse, disconnect cluster, or a dedicated k-line for logging
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2016, 03:12:37 PM »
do you have the laptop powered from the car , Ie , inverter or anything ? I seen this when I had an old laptop running in the car through an inverter charger , but because my new laptop runs for hours on its own batter , I have never seen the problem.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2016, 04:10:30 PM »
cheers nyet tried slower rate, never did try pulling fuse as everything else works fine through obd, if that works i'll run a dedicated k-line.  Smiley

Didnt have laptop powered nope just on battery. thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2016, 09:15:21 AM »
Thanks Nyet, removed fuses 11 & 15 and now i can connect  Grin i will attempt the dedicated k-line over the weekend so i can see my speed while logging lol.
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2016, 08:27:12 AM »
My Euro passat doesn't have fuse 11. And fuse 15 doesn't turn off the cluster (as in the fuel, temp, tachometer don't drop). Any specific other fuses? I've removed all the ones that look like cluster fuses on the fuse card, and nothing still. I'm probably going to have to wire up a second OBD port.

Any specific instructions for wiring up another OBD port? Like best place to join the wire from, etc?
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