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Title: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: J.Laborde on May 17, 2016, 12:50:29 AM
I have been reading the forums for a very long time now and I am still unable to bootmode my C-BOX ecu. I have used the EEPROM Programmer and I have tried grounding Pin 24 hundreds of times alongside the use of galletto 1260 and to no avail.

To give you some context, I recieved an M-box file (1024kb) from Jfonz, which bricked it, due to the fact the C-box is only 512kb.

If you have any recommendations for any followup procedures please tell me Smiley

Regards,

Josh


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: armageddon on May 17, 2016, 04:06:48 AM
Please share all the steps you are doing to get bootmode.

I never had any problem flashing c-box in bootmode with galletto 1260


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: J.Laborde on May 17, 2016, 07:42:06 AM
1) Ground Pin 24, apply power VIA Bench setup to simulate ignition switch
2) After 3-5 seconds, disconnect ground to pin-24 then switch of Ignition
3) Supposedly this should be in bootmode, then able to be used VIA Galletto 1260.

I have had no success changing the length of time of which I have applied the ground to pin 24. I have also tried/used the EEPROM GUI interface supplied somewhere here in the forums and to no avail - even with the advice of fellow members using the GUI interface and command lines through CMD.

Please note I have tried both methods using a bench-flash setup (tried with 12V then 13.8V) and I have also tried it whilst it is in the car. No workies  ???


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: k0mpresd on May 17, 2016, 08:59:57 AM
NOTHING says to turn off ignition. why would you turn off power to the ecu youre trying to flash? that makes no sense.


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: armageddon on May 17, 2016, 01:43:47 PM
^this



Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: vwaudiguy on May 17, 2016, 01:52:57 PM
To give you some context, I recieved an M-box file (1024kb) from Jfonz, which bricked it, due to the fact the C-box is only 512kb.

Who put the file on there in the first place?


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: k0mpresd on May 17, 2016, 02:15:57 PM
Who put the file on there in the first place?

mobster unicorns.


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: vwaudiguy on May 17, 2016, 02:21:53 PM
mobster unicorns.

As I thought.


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: J.Laborde on May 17, 2016, 04:30:20 PM
J-FONZ put on the file in the first place. I ordered a Stage 2 file and he gave me an M-BOX file. At the time I was very ignorant and didn't understand tuning. 3 Years later and I can make my own Stage 2.

I have tried even not turning the ignition switch off. I have tired everything to do with grounding that Pin and it just wont budge.


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: J.Laborde on May 17, 2016, 04:38:33 PM
NOTHING says to turn off ignition. why would you turn off power to the ecu youre trying to flash? that makes no sense.

I have also left the ignition turned on whilst attempting this Bootmode. It won't work for some reason.


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: vwaudiguy on May 17, 2016, 04:52:39 PM
J-FONZ put on the file in the first place. I ordered a Stage 2 file and he gave me an M-BOX file. At the time I was very ignorant and didn't understand tuning. 3 Years later and I can make my own Stage 2.

Put the file on what? He put a 1MB file on a 512 ecu? Did you send him the ecu? Where's he at now? 3 years ago? Man, I'm confused.


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: k0mpresd on May 17, 2016, 05:22:04 PM
Put the file on what? He put a 1MB file on a 512 ecu? Did you send him the ecu? Where's he at now? 3 years ago? Man, I'm confused.

yes, yet again i feel there is a giant chunk missing from the story.


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: J.Laborde on May 17, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
To give you even more context, I bought the car back in 2013 and it was advertised as a 2000 Audi S4 B5. I bought the car and it came with a Dimsport Mygenuis tool which I had no idea of what it was. After about a year of ownership, i looked through the paperwork and found out that the previous owner purchased a tune from J-Fonz (he is a tuner of Dimsport Mygenuis) but never received the file to put onto the car.

As time went by I established some information and presented it to J-Fonz (Josh Alfonso) regarding the fact i never recieved a tune. He sent me the tune a couple of days later when I told him i Had a 2000 S4 B5 from Australia (because that is what it was adversied as and it even said it on the transfer papers. Remember at this stage (2 years ago) I had no idea of the difference between pre and post facelift and year models - i just bought the car and it was fast.

ANYWAY he sent me the 1024kb file which I uploaded and it bricked the ECU. I bought an ECU from Mirza and got it Daz tuned (1 year ago). Now I know after many weeks and months of reading through the forums and the establishment of my tuning business im trying to recover the C-Box which i left in a box stored away. As i said I tried everything to boot mode it and it didn't work. Any more advice?

I'll attach my bench setup soon (pic).


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: IamwhoIam on May 18, 2016, 05:22:56 AM
/flame suit on

this is a real funny thread

/flame suit off


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: nyet on May 18, 2016, 10:58:09 AM
Your cbox ecu is worthless dude, just chuck it.

That said, if all you want is practice and you want to learn how to do bootmode, you're going to need a bench setup to do it reliably anyway.


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: J.Laborde on May 18, 2016, 08:05:42 PM
Is there any way to ressurect an ECU which failed a bootmode flash and therefore fried itself? (ie the circuit from the car battery was grounded through the 24th EEPROM pin (sparked)). I have an M-Box but like i said, its fried? Can a new EEPROM 800BB chip fix it?


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: Carsinc on May 18, 2016, 08:45:46 PM
I feel the need to sort this in my head. You bought a car, and felt JFONZ owed that car a tune, but you did not buy the Jfonz tune then JFONZ sent you a tune which bricked your ecu and that was ok for roughly 2 years. Then you bought a DAZ tune, but based on the timeline I have drawn on my white board you were very close to being able to tune it yourself at this point. Anyhow now you wish to recover the bricked ecu, which I guess is maybe the only part of this story I understand and you want me to believe that you have read this forum and could tune your own stage 2 but cannot get a ecu into bootmode.

If this is in fact what has happened, and you just come out and say it I will help you get this ecu into boot mode right now!


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: J.Laborde on May 19, 2016, 07:21:41 AM
I feel the need to sort this in my head. You bought a car, and felt JFONZ owed that car a tune, but you did not buy the Jfonz tune then JFONZ sent you a tune which bricked your ecu and that was ok for roughly 2 years. Then you bought a DAZ tune, but based on the timeline I have drawn on my white board you were very close to being able to tune it yourself at this point. Anyhow now you wish to recover the bricked ecu, which I guess is maybe the only part of this story I understand and you want me to believe that you have read this forum and could tune your own stage 2 but cannot get a ecu into bootmode.

If this is in fact what has happened, and you just come out and say it I will help you get this ecu into boot mode right now!

This is correct, however the issue is the ECU is fried. There is nothing i can do :(


Title: Re: BootMode C-BOX Help (1998 S4)
Post by: nyet on May 19, 2016, 09:59:12 AM
Is there any way to ressurect an ECU which failed a bootmode flash and therefore fried itself? (ie the circuit from the car battery was grounded through the 24th EEPROM pin (sparked)). I have an M-Box but like i said, its fried? Can a new EEPROM 800BB chip fix it?

Hard to say, since there is no way of knowing which components are dead.

It truly isn't worth it