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ECU Files => ECU Definition File Requests => Topic started by: streacy on November 16, 2017, 02:52:25 PM



Title: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: streacy on November 16, 2017, 02:52:25 PM
Hi all,

Looking for info on any XDF file compatibly with an allroad 2.7t tip

   0261207137         ECUHN         
   1037360858         ECUSN         
   4Z7907551D        VAG part number
   0002                   VAG sw number   
   2.7l V6/5VT         engine id     

Any info or a point in the right direction appreciated


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: streacy on November 16, 2017, 03:04:29 PM
Apologies here is original the bin file


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: nyet on November 16, 2017, 03:48:34 PM
Why not flash to a more well defined file?


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: streacy on November 17, 2017, 08:05:08 AM
I see you can use a better defined xdf but unsure whether to use a 'm- box' or 'l-box '. But which one will be compatible with a European allroad 2.7t. There is good info already not 100% on the right one. Will there be immo issues?

Thanks


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: rnagy86 on November 17, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
4Z7907551R should work and is pretty well defined


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: AARDQ on November 18, 2017, 09:04:00 AM
4Z7907551R should work and is pretty well defined

Too lazy to look but isn’t 551D ME7.1?  551R is MW7.1.1


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: rnagy86 on November 18, 2017, 10:59:13 AM
Mhhh. I was under the impression that all 4Z ones have different wiring harness
and are all 7.1.1.


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: nyet on November 18, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Mhhh. I was under the impression that all 4Z ones have different wiring harness
and are all 7.1.1.

Definitely not!

http://files.s4wiki.com/stock/part-numbers.txt


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: streacy on November 19, 2017, 02:53:56 PM
So will a 551R file be compatibile? On the wiki it gives a list of the ecu files and correndsponding engine codes etc. a 551R appears as me7.1 in European form but as me7.1.1 on North American form.

So do I have to look for a EU 551R xdf?

Also an EU 551H is very similar is there an xdf available for this, tried a search to no avail.

And doing more searching in the wiki it seems that the 551M or mbox is compatible for an all road my model year and tip transmission, can someone verify this so I can get this show on the road?

Any info appreciated
Thanks


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: nyet on November 19, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
So will a 551R file be compatibile? On the wiki it gives a list of the ecu files and correndsponding engine codes etc. a 551R appears as me7.1 in European form but as me7.1.1 on North American form

Where do you see that? 4Z7..551R is me7.1.1, period.

4B0..551R is a totally different file.

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So do I have to look for a EU 551R xdf?

No.

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Also an EU 551H is very similar is there an xdf available for this, tried a search to no avail.

I don't see why you would do this.

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And doing more searching in the wiki it seems that the 551M or mbox is compatible for an all road my model year and tip transmission, can someone verify this so I can get this show on the road?

No.

8D0...551M is manual.



Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: streacy on November 20, 2017, 06:25:46 AM
Ok Thanks for all the answers Nyet.

My understanding now is I’m looking for a well defined xdf starting 4z..... and is me7.1 to match my Ecu or am I still understanding wrong? 

If I am correct (doubtful), are there any good xdf files to suit?

Thanks


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: nyet on November 20, 2017, 12:31:01 PM
You can use any ME7.1 file but some do not have immo, and some (like 8D0) cannot be recoded from 6sp to tip.

You can use 8D0 551L - it is tip and (happens) to have the same map locations as 8D0 551M but it does not have immo.



Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: streacy on November 20, 2017, 03:31:07 PM
Again Thanks for the reply. So I can use the 8DO 551L or L box definition file from a s4? Even though my Ecu is 4Z7 551D?

If so excellent and thanks for the all information.

As for the immo problem, will I have to deactivate the one on my allroads 95040 chip or could I just write over with an L box xdf and it will be deactivated (hardly think it’s that handy)

Thanks


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: nyet on November 20, 2017, 05:20:05 PM
No immo as in you will lose immobilizer in general. You will want to make a back up of your ecu eeprom (not flash) though just in case you want to revert or flash to a file that does have immo.

Alternately, get a spare ECU.


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: streacy on November 23, 2017, 03:07:39 PM
Perfect,all set now to go ‘L box’. I read Ecu eeprom with Argdubs tool prior to flashing.

Now another problem arises, flash successful with rear 02 delete and sai delete  and slight tune and car starts then dies. I am presuming this is an Immobilizer issue.

I will start another topic in the appropriate section (newb questions/issues)

Any help will be appreciated greatly and thanks for all the help so far


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: nyet on November 23, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
Perfect,all set now to go ‘L box’. I read Ecu eeprom with Argdubs tool prior to flashing.

Now another problem arises, flash successful with rear 02 delete and sai delete  and slight tune and car starts then dies. I am presuming this is an Immobilizer issue.

I will start another topic in the appropriate section (newb questions/issues)

Any help will be appreciated greatly and thanks for all the help so far

hmm 8DO 551L does not have immo, it should not kill the motor after start.


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: streacy on November 27, 2017, 03:11:03 PM
My mistake  ::) i presumed i had a bosch maf and had a hitachi one. Loaded on appropriate file and now runs prefectly as 551L.

Can anyone confirm that the M box xdf has the same parameters as the L Box. i.e. is the attached xdf the one i should be using?


Title: Re: Looking for definition file for allroad 2.7t tip 4Z7907551D
Post by: nyet on November 27, 2017, 06:59:10 PM
Can anyone confirm that the M box xdf has the same parameters as the L Box. i.e. is the attached xdf the one i should be using?

Yes, 8D0..551L has the same map locations as 8D0..551M