Title: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: Fawor on March 14, 2018, 01:01:46 PM Hi there,
I would to run my BAM with 064 in MAFless setup but according to this topic, such settings don't work properly. http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=12708.0 With CLALM set 1 I have blinking checkengine. With CLALM set 0 no check but also no TCS. Everything else done like in tutorial above. What I do wrong? Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: teobolo on March 14, 2018, 01:55:06 PM This solution is not working to all Me7.5
Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: Fawor on March 14, 2018, 02:13:21 PM So anyone could help me with my map? Or give the adresses and proper sets to have working TCS in such soft?
Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: Fawor on March 14, 2018, 02:29:35 PM del
Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: nubcake on March 14, 2018, 04:14:33 PM What I do wrong? Run alpha-N emergency load calculation in place of a main one. If you want proper ECU functioning - pay someone to do a speed-density patch for you. Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: jjuuaannk on March 14, 2018, 07:36:17 PM So anyone could help me with my map? Or give the adresses and proper sets to have working TCS in such soft? Hello, I was reviewing your file and found it interesting What configuration do you use other than k04-064? injectors? How does your cupraR move with that configuration? Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: adam- on March 15, 2018, 12:44:35 AM Why? Run an inlet like on the TFSI and use a MAF. The 064 inlet is on top, literally a 90* bend and put a MAF on it. Loads of space.
Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: Fawor on March 15, 2018, 01:12:49 AM Run alpha-N emergency load calculation in place of a main one. If you want proper ECU functioning - pay someone to do a speed-density patch for you. I would to do this alone - this is why I'm asking here :) Any tutorials how to do it right? Adam-: Space is not a problem here. Probably with my bad luck - second MAF has screwed up. First one has readed 260gram, second for a while was good (210-220gram) but went to 185....with every bad results different then 21x gram I feel that car is more lazy and doesn't pull so strong (dynoed 337PS/405Nm with proper MAF). I want to tune it without MAF interference to have one stable setup without thinking "interesting does my MAF is now ok or not" :D jjuuaannk - car with goodworking MAF is for me an ultimate streetcar :) Runs really well and 'wakes up' earlier then with 023. Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: adam- on March 15, 2018, 01:14:42 AM Vibration? I've got an 064 and only killed 1 in three years because it fell off. No issues.
Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: Fawor on March 15, 2018, 04:23:10 AM Any ideas...this one which was showing 260gram was from my old 023 setup and probably already in 023 wasn't working perfectly. Second one from Bosch-exchange was living 2 weeks..maybe an incident. But I would like to not have any such incidents more ;) All welding and install solutions are made analog few other setups from this tuner so I don't think so that this is a case why MAFs are dead.
So: anyone could help me? :) Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: nubcake on March 15, 2018, 04:32:39 AM Speed-density conversion is quite involved and requires assembly patches to the ECU code.
If any of those words sounds unfamiliar to you - you won't be able to do it yourself, unfortunately. A healthy alternative is fitting another proper MAF (not a Chinese knock-off, but a new original) and properly calibrating it. Again, just making the ecu run Alpha-N will accomplish nothing, unless it's a "WOT-only" dragster. Part-throttle load calculation will be very wonky. Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: nyet on March 18, 2018, 07:00:49 PM I want to tune it without MAF interference to have one stable setup without thinking "interesting does my MAF is now ok or not" I have no idea why you think alpha-n is better than making sure you have a working MAF. Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: mister t on March 18, 2018, 07:43:05 PM I have no idea why you think alpha-n is better than making sure you have a working MAF. Agreed, from what I know, the only reason to be running a speed density setup is if you have a massive HP car (i.e. over 600 HP). Why have you eliminated the MAF? Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: nyet on March 18, 2018, 09:34:07 PM Agreed, from what I know, the only reason to be running a speed density setup is if you have a massive HP car (i.e. over 600 HP). Why have you eliminated the MAF? I don't really have a problem with speed density, but that is impossible to do on ME7 without a ton of work. Problem is, noobs seem to consistently confuse alpha-n with speed density :/ Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: prj on March 28, 2018, 12:58:23 PM It's not a ton of work once you've written the code and tested it. Well yes, it's a ton of work until then.
You need to modify main load calc, and also you need stuff like a digital filter on the MAP signal to prevent your load becoming a sawtooth and ESUK going bonkers. Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: woj on March 28, 2018, 01:54:11 PM My 5 cents - ME7.9.10 is speed density by design (as most gasoline Fiat family ECUs), probably a good source for working and tested code.
Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: prj on March 28, 2018, 02:02:17 PM My 5 cents - ME7.9.10 is speed density by design (as most gasoline Fiat family ECUs), probably a good source for working and tested code. It's not. Because too many things are different. Title: Re: MAFless ME7.5 BAM Post by: nubcake on March 28, 2018, 03:36:17 PM It can be done by replicating 7.9.10 setup, but it's like 5 times more work.
Way easier is to interpret how it works and mod the code accordingly. |