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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: q_dubz on April 23, 2019, 06:20:05 AM



Title: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: q_dubz on April 23, 2019, 06:20:05 AM
  • 4.163L V8
  • Bosch MS 980cc
  • 4bar base
  • Previous injectors were Bosch 630cc (KRKTE: .058xx)
Calculated value for the given pressure was .032xx
Set to .038xx and  partial LTFT are still calling for almost 16% and 19% more! This would result in around .045xx

I'm guessing it's time for FKKVS fixer?


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: nyet on April 23, 2019, 08:34:20 AM
If theoretical KRKTE does not work, fixing it via FKKVS is probably the worst possible "solution".


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: q_dubz on April 23, 2019, 11:20:42 AM
If theoretical KRKTE does not work, fixing it via FKKVS is probably the worst possible "solution".
ok I misunderstood it's purpose then.


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: nyet on April 23, 2019, 11:26:24 AM
If your trims are off by more than 15% with the correct theoretical KRKTE something else is very, very wrong.


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: q_dubz on April 23, 2019, 11:50:09 AM
If your trims are off by more than 15% with the correct theoretical KRKTE something else is very, very wrong.
I completely agree, hence why I posted. I'm looking for ideas. I'm going to wire in an electric fuel pressure gauge so I can log it.  But I imagine if that were a problem injector duty would certainly show it.... Hmm


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: nyet on April 23, 2019, 12:03:03 PM
I completely agree, hence why I posted. I'm looking for ideas. I'm going to wire in an electric fuel pressure gauge so I can log it.  But I imagine if that were a problem injector duty would certainly show it.... Hmm

Injector duty "shows" it when the ECU requests way more fuel than you'd expect due to.. drum roll.... trims :P


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: q_dubz on April 23, 2019, 10:31:12 PM
Injector duty "shows" it when the ECU requests way more fuel than you'd expect due to.. drum roll.... trims :P
well here's a shot of fra_w (RED) vs fr_w (BLUE) vs throttle and another with injector duty. Maybe you're right...


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: nyet on April 23, 2019, 10:50:09 PM
What other mechanism would the ECU use to increase injector time if the O2 sensors say lean?


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: q_dubz on April 25, 2019, 09:50:06 AM
What other mechanism would the ECU use to increase injector time if the O2 sensors say lean?
I dunno but I'll read thru the FR and find out.

The reason I posted this is because lambda control (fr_w) is taking away fuel, especially under WOT. Completely contradicts the work fra_w is doing which I understand happens BEFORE lambda control kicks in.


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: Blazius on April 25, 2019, 11:10:16 AM
I dunno but I'll read thru the FR and find out.

The reason I posted this is because lambda control (fr_w) is taking away fuel, especially under WOT. Completely contradicts the work fra_w is doing which I understand happens BEFORE lambda control kicks in.

wot? there is no lamba control on wot?


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: nyet on April 25, 2019, 11:15:11 AM
wot? there is no lamba control on wot?

depends if narrowband or wideband


Title: Re: KRKTE well outside calculated value
Post by: q_dubz on April 25, 2019, 12:52:07 PM
wot? there is no lamba control on wot?
wideband car.