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Title: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on June 04, 2019, 06:46:28 AM
I need some help figuring out what to change in the Hex code to delete sai and pass readiness. S4wiki tutorial does not apply to my me7.5.
I have my head wrapped around tunerpro and winols now. I need to know what addresses and values to change. I seen in one of the many posts I read that there is maf scaling required for this depending on how it's done.

Main thing is what addresses do I edit?
What do I need to change?   


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: BlackT on June 04, 2019, 07:08:46 AM
S4WIKI does apply to ME7.5. And you have many treads in forum for SAI delete


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on June 04, 2019, 07:54:05 AM
S4WIKI does apply to ME7.5. And you have many treads in forum for SAI delete

Thanks, mbox definitions don't apply to me7.5. The sai delete tutorial is not the same addresses. Find mslub in my file definitions and come back and tell me it's the same. I can't find mslub. I found cdsls but that method doesn't pass readiness.

I understand this subject has been beaten to death on here but finding the specific data I need for my car is like searching for a needle in a haystack. I have literally spent the last 4 days non stop searching for this. I am not asking anybody to do it for me, I want/need to learn it, but really sick of reading post after post about someone's s4 me7.1.1 or whatever it may be that has nothing to do with my car. I found someone with the same car doing the same thing and it didn't give me anything useful, found a file with some definitions that are similar argdubs lp-pl.ak and then found the LQ.ols files same for the most part, but I can't find anything related to the addresses or values to change. not looking to be spoon fed just need direction and actual help.  I post this in the noob section because I'm a noob to this I'm no pro and don't claim to be so I'm asking for help, something I don't usually do. Been on here for years and this is only my 2nd post.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: adam- on June 04, 2019, 10:47:52 AM
1A860


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: adam- on June 04, 2019, 10:52:34 AM
*Also, your file with SAI delete.

MSLUB, CDSLS, ESKONF changed.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: Blazius on June 04, 2019, 11:10:36 AM
Thank that man !  :)


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on June 04, 2019, 01:05:23 PM
*Also, your file with SAI delete.

MSLUB, CDSLS, ESKONF changed.

Thank you, that was awesome of you to do that! I can compare it in winols and see what you did so I can do it later on other cars on my own..


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: adam- on June 04, 2019, 01:30:40 PM
It varies between files.

All files with different part numbers have different locations.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: nyet on June 05, 2019, 12:08:45 AM
Thank you, that was awesome of you to do that! I can compare it in winols and see what you did so I can do it later on other cars on my own..

Basically, you have to use a known file that is similar to the one you have and look for the same pattern of bytes around the map.

Failing that, disassemble.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: BlackT on June 05, 2019, 01:46:22 AM
Thank you, that was awesome of you to do that! I can compare it in winols and see what you did so I can do it later on other cars on my own..
You must use compare to find maps
I made this short video how i do it
https://youtu.be/qOob-3LVpnI
In this video I compare my 4B0906018DC ECU,where I have defined maps, with your ECU
note: Software beyond compare is not ideal, it depends how similar compare file is. But with little self corection you can find almost any map


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on June 05, 2019, 03:31:43 AM
That was very strange. Flashed the ecu with galleto in bootmode since nefmoto doesn't pass security checks on this ecu on the bench or the car, put it back in the car, and when I went to run TBA through set readiness in vcds it bricked the ecu. lost communication with the cable and it wouldn't start ???. I re-flashed the ecu with adams's map and I'm going to put it back in the car today to see if it starts.

Adam, where did you find mslub? Which map is it under in the definitions? I looked and didn't see it. I can run compare tool to find it as BlackT mentioned. I haven't got a chance to deconstruct your file yet.
Trying to get this car ready for emissions and a road trip sunday and I still need to replace the A/C system. Getting the car ready has been first priority. Adam, you saved me some time there, but now I have to finish the car before I can get back to learning this code. The wall (sai ecu delete instead of replace the pump challenge) I put myself in front of was my drive to learn this. I will just have to get this car done and move back onto my GTI for learning re-mapping.



Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: BlackT on June 05, 2019, 03:53:20 AM
The file adam posted fail chechsum
This is corected file, uplaod it. Now schould be OK


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on June 05, 2019, 04:44:11 AM
The file adam posted fail chechsum
This is corected file, uplaod it. Now schould be OK
Thank you.  I flashed that file and will try it.
The car also failed for o2 heating before all this. If that is b1s1 I will just replace the sensor if it's b1s2 I will want to write it out.
I think I can look at my GTI map and figure out what to do there. It's mafless, evap, sai, rear o2, n75 deleted. I also have unitronics 630BT map I can look at. 


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on June 05, 2019, 04:54:42 AM
Any chance one of you can do that again while running CamStudio and send me the video? ;) :)


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: dilly on June 06, 2019, 11:23:03 PM
Thank you.  I flashed that file and will try it.
The car also failed for o2 heating before all this. If that is b1s1 I will just replace the sensor if it's b1s2 I will want to write it out.
I think I can look at my GTI map and figure out what to do there. It's mafless, evap, sai, rear o2, n75 deleted. I also have unitronics 630BT map I can look at. 
the unitronic map will be useless to you don't even bother


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: BlackT on June 06, 2019, 11:33:41 PM
Any chance one of you can do that again while running CamStudio and send me the video? ;) :)
https://youtu.be/nKSe1fPbTlA


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on June 07, 2019, 03:37:24 AM
https://youtu.be/nKSe1fPbTlA

Thank you, the file worked perfectly. I owe you one. They need a BJ emoji for things like this  :)
And That video and other ones more like that is what I need. Way easier to pause, backup, study and understand vs quick written notes that quickly become riddles. The CamStudio videos really do make it much easier to figure out. Saves from having to decipher what or where to do or go. I find everytime I skip over a detail assuming someone knows what I'm talking about, they don't. I tend to over explain things to the point of annoying people, but if I don't, then they usually mess up. It can be a tough balance not to offend people by over explaining making them feel stupid. And that is where the videos are so useful. Each frame is a thousand words you don't have to try and explain. For instance if you made the video of you deleting the sai, I know the reasoning behind it, so if I see you do it I can go through the steps and understand better how and why it's being done.

I want to learn basic write outs as in rear o2, evap, sai, simple stuff to understand the software better first. once I get that down, I will need to do some major reading to understand the systems and begin scaling maps and tuning for performance. Seems to be the only thing I can't do on these cars yet.
 


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on June 07, 2019, 03:50:55 AM
the unitronic map will be useless to you don't even bother

How is it that the unitronics map will be useless to me? encrypted? Do they rewrite the whole program to a level of stand alone? I haven't tried to rip the map off the ecu yet. It's all kinda off topic for this thread, but I want continue this thread in this direction as it has background to where I'm going with this.

Note: My SAI issue has been solved.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: thefwrs on February 01, 2021, 10:45:56 PM
I'm back on this car again. Since I never did figure out how to delete the sai myself, I'm back at it. I swapped the tiptronic for a 02j manual and having issues with recoding it to manual in vcds. communication errors. Anyway, figured it might work better to take an oem 032LP MT file, delete the sai and rear o2 and just flash the ecu with that. Back stuck trying to figure out what to edit. 


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: _nameless on February 02, 2021, 12:11:40 AM
I'm back on this car again. Since I never did figure out how to delete the sai myself, I'm back at it. I swapped the tiptronic for a 02j manual and having issues with recoding it to manual in vcds. communication errors. Anyway, figured it might work better to take an oem 032LP MT file, delete the sai and rear o2 and just flash the ecu with that. Back stuck trying to figure out what to edit.  
Here this may help you out. was board on this snowy night. I made a file for you using the 032lpl file and deleted downstream o2s, evap, sai, and cat. made soft cut launch control at 4100rpm, upped boost to 13psi~, enabled left foot braking. Upped maf diagnostics as not to set cel for increed boost. turned off speed lim, stock rev lim, fueling is based off bts fueling with max enrichment of 12.4 afr. few other minor tweaks. anyway enjoy.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: GolfSportWagen on February 02, 2021, 08:33:04 PM
Here this may help you out. was board on this snowy night. I made a file for you using the 032lpl file and deleted downstream o2s, evap, sai, and cat. made soft cut launch control at 4100rpm, upped boost to 13psi~, enabled left foot braking. Upped maf diagnostics as not to set cel for increed boost. turned off speed lim, stock rev lim, fueling is based off bts fueling with max enrichment of 12.4 afr. few other minor tweaks. anyway enjoy.

Now that's downright nice ! What a guy.  ;)


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: tomslik on February 11, 2021, 08:49:54 PM
Here this may help you out. was board on this snowy night. I made a file for you using the 032lpl file and deleted downstream o2s, evap, sai, and cat. made soft cut launch control at 4100rpm, upped boost to 13psi~, enabled left foot braking. Upped maf diagnostics as not to set cel for increed boost. turned off speed lim, stock rev lim, fueling is based off bts fueling with max enrichment of 12.4 afr. few other minor tweaks. anyway enjoy.
Sorry, where is this?!! Sounds so interesting...


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: _nameless on February 12, 2021, 09:39:54 PM
Now that's downright nice ! What a guy.  ;)
@GolfSportWagen told yah


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: _nameless on February 13, 2021, 07:40:58 AM
Sorry, where is this?!! Sounds so interesting...
I deleted it. It was made for the op not you, they put an effort in and made a thread about what they where trying to do. So I helped them.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: tomslik on February 17, 2021, 09:23:50 PM
I deleted it. It was made for the op not you, they put an effort in and made a thread about what they where trying to do. So I helped them.

That's tight.
Would have been nice to have a look at something that relates to my interests  than to read even another few thousand pages on S4 me7.1.1 crap. don't know how many more decades I have left to dedicate to this site.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: _nameless on February 17, 2021, 09:46:09 PM
That's tight.
Would have been nice to have a look at something that relates to my interests  than to read even another few thousand pages on S4 me7.1.1 crap. don't know how many more decades I have left to dedicate to this site.
fact is bud you wouldn't even know what you're looking at. that's clear as day considering you think that s4s are me7.1.1. hint: they are me7.1.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: tomslik on February 17, 2021, 11:13:52 PM
fact is bud you wouldn't even know what you're looking at. that's clear as day considering you think that s4s are me7.1.1. hint: they are me7.1.
Exactly my point, guess you missed it.


Title: Re: SAI delete 06A906032LQ help! 03 Jetta
Post by: _nameless on February 19, 2021, 11:42:17 PM
Exactly my point, guess you missed it.
I didn't miss anything, what you're saying makes no sense. The s4 descriptions and tuning practices are relatable to any vag forced induction me7 ecu...