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Technical => Cluster and Immobilizer => Topic started by: Sandstorm3k on November 24, 2021, 02:36:35 PM



Title: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Sandstorm3k on November 24, 2021, 02:36:35 PM
Greetings,

My project Seat Leon has got another issue that I can't seem to solve. Bear with me (please)

When I bought it the hazard light from the immobilizer kept flashing, so i thought easy fix. I read the cluster EEPROM for the login code and tried adapting it through VCDS, but it keeps throwing an error while it literally worked on every car i've tried in the past. I swapped the ECU for a wideband unit which I immo'd off, but also didn't help.

Then I thought they might have fiddled with the cluster EEPROM itself, so I flashed a known working "stock" cluster EEPROM then tried the VCDS procedure but also no succes. Car runs fine with the stock narrowband immo on ECU, and also with the offed ECU.

What can we do to stop this stupid light from blinking as i'm out of ideas.

Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: elektronik13 on November 24, 2021, 04:00:33 PM
Greetings,

My project Seat Leon has got another issue that I can't seem to solve. Bear with me (please)

When I bought it the hazard light from the immobilizer kept flashing, so i thought easy fix. I read the cluster EEPROM for the login code and tried adapting it through VCDS, but it keeps throwing an error while it literally worked on every car i've tried in the past. I swapped the ECU for a wideband unit which I immo'd off, but also didn't help.

Then I thought they might have fiddled with the cluster EEPROM itself, so I flashed a known working "stock" cluster EEPROM then tried the VCDS procedure but also no succes. Car runs fine with the stock narrowband immo on ECU, and also with the offed ECU.

What can we do to stop this stupid light from blinking as i'm out of ideas.

Thanks in advance!
share eeprom dash and ecu files let's see what can be done with it


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Sandstorm3k on November 25, 2021, 02:36:36 AM
Noteworthy; the car is fitted with an immo 3 cluster and immo 3 ECU, while stock it definitely had an immo 2 cluster and immo 2 ECU.

When I bought it it had an immo 3 cluster on an immo 2 ECU.

Attached; the cluster EEPROM read from the car, and my offed 95040 for the ECU (came from another car with 032HN file)

Car is currently running on 032HN, but I figured I need to be running a file with Haldex/4WD code as I can't seem to enable it on VCDS for what seems to be an obvious reason.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: elektronik13 on November 25, 2021, 11:16:47 AM
Noteworthy; the car is fitted with an immo 3 cluster and immo 3 ECU, while stock it definitely had an immo 2 cluster and immo 2 ECU.

When I bought it it had an immo 3 cluster on an immo 2 ECU.

Attached; the cluster EEPROM read from the car, and my offed 95040 for the ECU (came from another car with 032HN file)

Car is currently running on 032HN, but I figured I need to be running a file with Haldex/4WD code as I can't seem to enable it on VCDS for what seems to be an obvious reason.

save these files and the car should start if you program the pin keys is 02297
try to program old keys
if they do not program themselves use new transponders


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Sandstorm3k on November 25, 2021, 01:22:18 PM
The car does start, because immo is off it's just the stupid light and not being able to program the keys.

I will order a new key and transponder to test, and try your files. Thanks.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: elektronik13 on November 26, 2021, 01:58:26 AM
The car does start, because immo is off it's just the stupid light and not being able to program the keys.

I will order a new key and transponder to test, and try your files. Thanks.
Ok let me know what the end result was


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: stuydub on November 28, 2021, 08:24:23 AM
The car does start, because immo is off it's just the stupid light and not being able to program the keys.

I will order a new key and transponder to test, and try your files. Thanks.

You can not adapt immo off ecu immo needs to on to access channel 50 or error is happen...turn immo on get new id48 chips adapt then turn immo off but wont be needed if paired


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: elektronik13 on November 28, 2021, 10:55:17 AM
You can not adapt immo off ecu immo needs to on to access channel 50 or error is happen...turn immo on get new id48 chips adapt then turn immo off but wont be needed if paired
Exactly if it is paired


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Sandstorm3k on November 28, 2021, 03:26:07 PM
You can not adapt immo off ecu immo needs to on to access channel 50 or error is happen...turn immo on get new id48 chips adapt then turn immo off but wont be needed if paired
Awesome. This was probably the piece I was missing, will report back here when the new key arrives.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Sandstorm3k on November 30, 2021, 11:42:50 AM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=8676.0

Found here also, stupid me


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Sandstorm3k on March 23, 2022, 12:47:11 PM
Flashed the car with 8N0906018H file & EEPROM.

Paired the cluster & EEPROM and re-adapted keys with Vagcom.

Problem solved & a job well done  :)


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: stuydub on March 26, 2022, 02:38:53 AM
U can also edit the ECU flash to not check for immo... not very often i immo off the 95040 file now just the Flash


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Sandstorm3k on March 29, 2022, 12:40:41 AM
U can also edit the ECU flash to not check for immo... not very often i immo off the 95040 file now just the Flash

I knew this was possible, but i'm not too sure how. Would you care to elaborate?

Though for my issue I think being able to re-adapt the keys to the cluster was a must anyway. I also do prefer having the stock-like immo support on it anyway.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 06, 2022, 12:08:09 PM
Greetings,

My project Seat Leon has got another issue that I can't seem to solve. Bear with me (please)

When I bought it the hazard light from the immobilizer kept flashing, so i thought easy fix. I read the cluster EEPROM for the login code and tried adapting it through VCDS, but it keeps throwing an error while it literally worked on every car i've tried in the past. I swapped the ECU for a wideband unit which I immo'd off, but also didn't help.

Then I thought they might have fiddled with the cluster EEPROM itself, so I flashed a known working "stock" cluster EEPROM then tried the VCDS procedure but also no succes. Car runs fine with the stock narrowband immo on ECU, and also with the offed ECU.

What can we do to stop this stupid light from blinking as i'm out of ideas.

Thanks in advance!
if it runs fine take the bulb out


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: grayjay on May 06, 2022, 01:57:35 PM
if it runs fine take the bulb out

Exterior taillight also flash, just removing the dash bulb will not fix that. 


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 06, 2022, 02:32:07 PM
Exterior taillight also flash, just removing the dash bulb will not fix that. 
use vcds and turn off the flash, I think you change it to Uk instead of rest of the world, I run an immo 3 ecu with immo 2 cluster but I did soldering to the ecu itself


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Sandstorm3k on May 07, 2022, 03:36:02 AM
if it runs fine take the bulb out
I like fixing things the appropriate way  :)


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: _nameless on May 07, 2022, 06:00:14 AM
I like fixing things the appropriate way  :)
He's full of shit and really has no idea what he's talking about. You can not turn the immo light off with vcss (LOL) " I did soldering to the ecu itself" that's a huge lmfaoooo. Sure you did bub  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 07:44:36 AM
He's full of shit and really has no idea what he's talking about. You can not turn the immo light off with vcss (LOL) " I did soldering to the ecu itself" that's a huge lmfaoooo. Sure you did bub  :D :D :D
dude your a fucking troll, you can’t even quote properly, and why you starting trouble on someone else’s thread and nobody said turn the light with vcds, I said to disable the alarm in vcds which you can, yea to show you how much you know you can swap the immo chip to a different ecu stupid, you don’t know what you be talking about, go read a dictionary… and since you know so much I will challenge you, take your pick a boxing ring or at track car to car for 5k and titles


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 07:48:14 AM
I like fixing things the appropriate way  :)
nothing wrong with that


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: _nameless on May 07, 2022, 08:16:37 AM
use vcds and turn off the flash...
What would you call this? In context clearly implying you can... Lmao


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: _nameless on May 07, 2022, 08:25:29 AM
yea to show you how much you know you can swap the immo chip to a different ecu
Yeah swap a immo 2 eeprom to a immo3 ecu and the car will shut down the flash needs to match the immo generation. Sure you can immo off it and that will keep it running But that's not what you said. None of what you said makes sense in its context and then you need to backpedal to try and save face with your nonsense. Also, the Ops problem isnt the alarm LMAO and your comments are worthless. It really only sounds like you're the one with the issue as you constantly resort to name calling and threats.... Someone is all hot and bothered... LMFAOOOOO.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 11:57:01 AM
Yeah swap a immo 2 eeprom to a immo3 ecu and the car will shut down the flash needs to match the immo generation. Sure you can immo off it and that will keep it running But that's not what you said. None of what you said makes sense in its context and then you need to backpedal to try and save face with your nonsense. Also, the Ops problem isnt the alarm LMAO and your comments are worthless. It really only sounds like you're the one with the issue as you constantly resort to name calling and threats.... Someone is all hot and bothered... LMFAOOOOO.
dude remember you jumped in my inbox calling out my name and bumping shit, and well hell if ya know how to change the alarm function in vcds it would be self explanatory, and no i did not immo off my ecu i just swapped the immo chip, where the immo is stored on the ecu physically is not an eeprom, if you ever done one you should know there is guide is online plus a video and for your info i repair car electronics and been doing so for about 18yrs. OP said exterior light is flashing also, so i figured alarm is triggered which you can turn off in vcds...


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 12:17:34 PM
Yeah swap a immo 2 eeprom to a immo3 ecu and the car will shut down the flash needs to match the immo generation. Sure you can immo off it and that will keep it running But that's not what you said. None of what you said makes sense in its context and then you need to backpedal to try and save face with your nonsense. Also, the Ops problem isnt the alarm LMAO and your comments are worthless. It really only sounds like you're the one with the issue as you constantly resort to name calling and threats.... Someone is all hot and bothered... LMFAOOOOO.
BTW Marty Fragale, you sell bad tunes dude, Put that shit box up..... and you own lowlyfe tuning right, i know way more about you than you think dude....


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: _nameless on May 07, 2022, 01:24:45 PM
BTW Marty Fragale, you sell bad tunes dude, Put that shit box up..... and you own lowlyfe tuning right, i know way more about you than you think dude....
Cool a stalker :D  :D, I use my name openly so cool?... Also, for someone who doesn't even know how to find eakonf (huge lol)... I really could care less what you think... Vr6 master lol.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 02:17:29 PM
Cool a stalker :D  :D, I use my name openly so cool?... Also, for someone who doesn't even know how to find eakonf (huge lol)... I really could care less what you think... Vr6 master lol.
never said i was an vr6 master but you have a rep for fucking up cars dude with your faulty tunes, i might not have been able to find it but i don't fake the funk by selling people bad tunes pretending i know something, and obviously you cant properly find maps either talking about me, you not man enough to let people you done fucked up peoples cars, you still in AZ or you relocated, and nah im really not a stalker but you jumped in my inbox talking shit and continue to do so, i found you and im coming to see you bro so you can say all that shit to my face, you started it by trying to come at me, everybody don't play games like you.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: _nameless on May 07, 2022, 02:43:56 PM
Still in AZ, Phoenix actually. Stop by anytime you'd like!


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 02:48:53 PM
Still in AZ, Phoenix actually. Stop by anytime you'd like!
will do..


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: _nameless on May 07, 2022, 02:59:44 PM
fuck you dude i know where you live, like talking smack on line, i got a whole paper trail on you, just be ready to talk that shit in-person, i know what you look like but don't know what i look like. when i pull up not many words gonna be said, you tried to cyber bully the wrong dude..
This guy makes me lol


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 03:07:59 PM
This guy makes me lol
you be near w bell rd, surprise, az


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 03:26:42 PM
This guy makes me lol
why don't you post what said, don't act like you didn't say anything, not so big and bad right, i was told to be polite and respectful on here but obviously you aint trying to show no respect, so to you im gonna be disrespectful, and honestly its people like you who antagonize people and when something happens its always "i dont know why they did that to me". expose yourself... btw i found out who you was before i found out about your faulty tunes, and you crossed paths with people i know personally. simply put if i wanted to do something i could and never leave where im at, remember you cant always behind a keyboard cause dont know who, im telling you now im gonna let you entertain yourself, i said way to much and just know you was coming at me with me not mentioning you. bye-bye


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 07, 2022, 04:27:58 PM
Greetings,

My project Seat Leon has got another issue that I can't seem to solve. Bear with me (please)

When I bought it the hazard light from the immobilizer kept flashing, so i thought easy fix. I read the cluster EEPROM for the login code and tried adapting it through VCDS, but it keeps throwing an error while it literally worked on every car i've tried in the past. I swapped the ECU for a wideband unit which I immo'd off, but also didn't help.

Then I thought they might have fiddled with the cluster EEPROM itself, so I flashed a known working "stock" cluster EEPROM then tried the VCDS procedure but also no succes. Car runs fine with the stock narrowband immo on ECU, and also with the offed ECU.

What can we do to stop this stupid light from blinking as i'm out of ideas.

Thanks in advance!
hey Sandstorm3k i wanna apologize to you for taking over your thread I really didn't mean to.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: _nameless on May 07, 2022, 07:11:25 PM
why don't you post what said, don't act like you didn't say anything, not so big and bad right, i was told to be polite and respectful on here but obviously you aint trying to show no respect, so to you im gonna be disrespectful, and honestly its people like you who antagonize people and when something happens its always "i dont know why they did that to me". expose yourself... btw i found out who you was before i found out about your faulty tunes, and you crossed paths with people i know personally. simply put if i wanted to do something i could and never leave where im at, remember you cant always behind a keyboard cause dont know who, im telling you now im gonna let you entertain yourself, i said way to much and just know you was coming at me with me not mentioning you. bye-bye



Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Geomeo on May 08, 2022, 08:01:59 AM
hey Sandstorm3k i wanna apologize to you for taking over your thread I really didn't mean to.
I think you might need this......

https://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/

From the minute you started posting or going by your post history it seems you've actually WANTED to start trouble.   Maybe you've been abused or ridiculed a lot in your life.  Either way you need to seek some professional mental help.  Right now you're on a site that offers a wealth of information and has a group of smart people who are trying to HELP YOU with your car.  FOR NOTHING! FREEEEE!..Instead of being thankful and polite, all you've done is insulted people or tried to for no reason.  So I'm pretty sure at this point you need some psychiatric help.  I'm hoping you actually have the brain power to recognize there is something wrong with you.  If not we are all going to pray, PRAYING A LOT! that you buy another car. Something that does not have a Bosch ecu in it.   How about a 1960's VW beetle?  Ted Bundy used to drive one of those.  And nobody asks questions about their tunes on here.  So there will be no reason for you to be on this website. EVER! ;D


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 08, 2022, 09:29:56 AM
I think you might need this......

https://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/

From the minute you started posting or going by your post history it seems you've actually WANTED to start trouble.   Maybe you've been abused or ridiculed a lot in your life.  Either way you need to seek some professional mental help.  Right now you're on a site that offers a wealth of information and has a group of smart people who are trying to HELP YOU with your car.  FOR NOTHING! FREEEEE!..Instead of being thankful and polite, all you've done is insulted people or tried to for no reason.  So I'm pretty sure at this point you need some psychiatric help.  I'm hoping you actually have the brain power to recognize there is something wrong with you.  If not we are all going to pray, PRAYING A LOT! that you buy another car. Something that does not have a Bosch ecu in it.   How about a 1960's VW beetle?  Ted Bundy used to drive one of those.  And nobody asks questions about their tunes on here.  So there will be no reason for you to be on this website. EVER! ;D
first and foremost I didn’t come on here to start any trouble, that’s fine if that’s what y’all want who likes to be called stupid or dumb for asking a question, I posted on here then the troll came in so I started that right?, dude really, I still ended up finding out what I needed and not from here, and I never once said give me what I needed and only person that actually offer something was r32dude, but it’s cool that I’m being looked at incompetent when it comes to Bosch ecu’s, and still nobody offered help, there are plenty of unanswered post on here, and why I gotta buy another car? I just don’t like MARTY, I know I came in frustrated but damn. I was just looking to fiddle with my own car, and my mental health is fine, so it’s fine for me to get harassed on any post I create or any topic I chime in on, people who do that need mental help. If I post something and someone talks shit fuck no I’m not gonna be polite and why should I… I’m sure cause of this DICK y’all not gonna help me… and I will definitely purposely be mentally unstable when it comes to this dude. Glad to know y’all care care for a person who was out here fucking up peoples cars and won’t man up to it, it’s lack of morals, and it’s crazy cause only people who get offended are people who do that type of stuff. I can apologize for me, I’ll be nice to who nice to me other than that if I feel offended or disrespected I ain’t gonna be kool


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: _nameless on May 08, 2022, 10:05:30 AM
...and my mental health is fine...
:D :D :D

Yo listen what the fuck is your damn problem, your the Dick head getting butt hurt, you trying to clown for what, you really wanna get busy we can do this shit in person, I really don’t have time for this keyboard shit, I’m dead ass, where your from, I will come to your city and meet in a boxing ring and fuck you up legally, either leave me alone or man up and back your shit up dude. I don’t have time for the pussy shit. Coming at cause I asked a question you fucking dick, you safe and sound.


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 08, 2022, 10:48:55 AM
:D :D :D

yea dude you popped in my inbox talking shit, i really don’t care, you came at me, that was my repose to you… should’ve never pooped in my inbox… I don’t wanna be bothered by you but if you keep fucking with im gonna fuck with you way worse… 


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Geomeo on May 08, 2022, 11:57:44 AM
first and foremost I didn’t come on here to start any trouble, that’s fine if that’s what y’all want who likes to be called stupid or dumb for asking a question, I posted on here then the troll came in so I started that right?, dude really, I still ended up finding out what I needed and not from here, and I never once said give me what I needed and only person that actually offer something was r32dude, but it’s cool that I’m being looked at incompetent when it comes to Bosch ecu’s, and still nobody offered help, there are plenty of unanswered post on here, and why I gotta buy another car? I just don’t like MARTY, I know I came in frustrated but damn. I was just looking to fiddle with my own car, and my mental health is fine, so it’s fine for me to get harassed on any post I create or any topic I chime in on, people who do that need mental help. If I post something and someone talks shit fuck no I’m not gonna be polite and why should I… I’m sure cause of this DICK y’all not gonna help me… and I will definitely purposely be mentally unstable when it comes to this dude. Glad to know y’all care care for a person who was out here fucking up peoples cars and won’t man up to it, it’s lack of morals, and it’s crazy cause only people who get offended are people who do that type of stuff. I can apologize for me, I’ll be nice to who nice to me other than that if I feel offended or disrespected I ain’t gonna be kool
First and foremost you did come on here to start trouble. Saying you didn't is complete BS.   Your 3rd post without anyone saying anything to you basically said the human help on this forum is USELESS.  What exactly do you think calling all of US HUMANS useless is going to accomplish?  Do you think every HUMAN on here is going to be like Oh you are so wise, let us all bow to your superiority?  Yeah exactly, nobody likes your insults.  And that is  why you need to seek psychological help.  Someone that will help you make the right decisions so that you are not coming off as a douche.   You posted talking shit in all of our inbox when you said that.  If you can't recognize where you're going wrong please seek some professional help.   Somewhere in that head of yours is a 3d map that is out of tune.  And nobody on here can correct the binary file. Netmofo is not compatible.  LDRXN does not compute etc etc.....   


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 08, 2022, 01:15:57 PM
First and foremost you did come on here to start trouble. Saying you didn't is complete BS.   Your 3rd post without anyone saying anything to you basically said the human help on this forum is USELESS.  What exactly do you think calling all of US HUMANS useless is going to accomplish?  Do you think every HUMAN on here is going to be like Oh you are so wise, let us all bow to your superiority?  Yeah exactly, nobody likes your insults.  And that is  why you need to seek psychological help.  Someone that will help you make the right decisions so that you are not coming off as a douche.   You posted talking shit in all of our inbox when you said that.  If you can't recognize where you're going wrong please seek some professional help.   Somewhere in that head of yours is a 3d map that is out of tune.  And nobody on here can correct the binary file. Netmofo is not compatible.  LDRXN does not compute etc etc.....   
wtf, all of our inbox’s I said he jumped in my inbox, that was after he was talking shit to me on a post I answered to, and I responded to him and then he jumped in my inbox and it took offense that’s on you, if you think things are targeted straight at you then you have issues, look it up…. Yea I got frustrated cause I was in a bind so excuse me, you act like you never been impatient… idgf I’m in defensive mode and I will show respect once people stop coming at me fucking side ways… FOR ALL WHO WAS INSULTED BY ME LETS MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT… let that shit out tf… Also why not talk shit on my thread, why y’all wanna talk shit to me on someone else’s post, I apologized to the OP and people still coming for me on the persons post ya must not care just as much as I do j/s… at least I can apologize…


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Geomeo on May 08, 2022, 07:37:30 PM
wtf, all of our inbox’s I said he jumped in my inbox, that was after he was talking shit to me on a post I answered to, and I responded to him and then he jumped in my inbox and it took offense that’s on you, if you think things are targeted straight at you then you have issues, look it up…. Yea I got frustrated cause I was in a bind so excuse me, you act like you never been impatient… idgf I’m in defensive mode and I will show respect once people stop coming at me fucking side ways… FOR ALL WHO WAS INSULTED BY ME LETS MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT… let that shit out tf… Also why not talk shit on my thread, why y’all wanna talk shit to me on someone else’s post, I apologized to the OP and people still coming for me on the persons post ya must not care just as much as I do j/s… at least I can apologize…
"Praying for a 1960's beetle for you". 


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Twisted vr6 on May 08, 2022, 09:17:30 PM
"Praying for a 1960's beetle for you". 
ok do what ever makes you happy.... you done yet?


Title: Re: Cluster immo light keeps flashing
Post by: Roggy on October 30, 2023, 09:42:37 AM
Damn, i was looking for a good fix por the same problem I have but I realized it became a Royal Rumble in here. lol. sorry for the bump.