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Technical => Cluster and Immobilizer => Topic started by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 01:16:23 AM



Title: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 01:16:23 AM
Hello everybodies,

I tried to find any topics about this subject, but I'm not sure that it's possible.
I bought a car with ECU problem, and now i'm trying to transfert immo to another ECU.
I bought some tools, token and no way, nothing works.

I would like to know if somebodiers have an ideas to so.
I did:
- ODIS online. Not possible anymore (need DSS)
- Weboctopus. No results
- Manually. Seems to be crypted or I don't know.

Many thanks for your advice.

SW 5G0906259.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: IamwhoIam on October 07, 2024, 02:55:05 AM
I can do this for you if you have a complete backup of the original ECU and of the new ECU.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: EanDem on October 07, 2024, 03:27:56 AM
Hello everybodies,

I tried to find any topics about this subject, but I'm not sure that it's possible.
I bought a car with ECU problem, and now i'm trying to transfert immo to another ECU.
I bought some tools, token and no way, nothing works.

I would like to know if somebodiers have an ideas to so.
I did:
- ODIS online. Not possible anymore (need DSS)
- Weboctopus. No results
- Manually. Seems to be crypted or I don't know.

Many thanks for your advice.

SW 5G0906259.

 Transfer will not work by HSE. But disabling immo possible via same vendor you mentioned. There quite few suppliers online for that actually.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 07:25:14 AM
OK many thanks for your answer. I thought like you but not working too.
Maybe wrong files or I'm not able to use the tool correctly. I tried several times.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 07:30:28 AM
I can do this for you if you have a complete backup of the original ECU and of the new ECU.

Thanks to tell me if this dump is correct. My first thiniking was a wrong dump, but I opened it, and for me seems good.
Attached, it comes from my ECU damaged.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: prj on October 07, 2024, 08:26:47 AM
https://tools.vehical.net/s18immo (https://tools.vehical.net/s18immo)
Online instant solution for disabling the immo, if you decide to go that way.
You will need to write the ECU in boot, as OBD is not possible when immo is not authenticated.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: EanDem on October 07, 2024, 08:32:25 AM
Thanks to tell me if this dump is correct. My first thiniking was a wrong dump, but I opened it, and for me seems good.
Attached, it comes from my ECU damaged.

To disable immo in replacement ecu you must have full read of it. Do you have it?


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 09:13:50 AM
To disable immo in replacement ecu you must have full read of it. Do you have it?

Yes, Of course, I have full read from both ECU. I don't know if it's correct. So I posted the original one in order to tell if boot read was ok.

Thanks so much


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: prj on October 07, 2024, 11:08:57 AM
If you want to kill immo rather than pair it:

1. Kill immo in new ECU.
2. Put the ECU in the car and flash FRF of correct software version. It will let you flash because immo is off. Alternatively you can flash directly using OBD protocol on the bench by disconnecting the boot pin, because with immo off the ECU is happy to do that.
3. Read the new ECU again.
4. Kill immo in new ECU again.
5. Put the ECU in the car - now you have correct software version and immo is off...

Old ECU is not important at all, you don't need read from it either, if you want to go the kill immo route.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 11:46:09 AM
If you want to kill immo rather than pair it:

1. Kill immo in new ECU.
2. Put the ECU in the car and flash FRF of correct software version. It will let you flash because immo is off. Alternatively you can flash directly using OBD protocol on the bench by disconnecting the boot pin, because with immo off the ECU is happy to do that.
3. Read the new ECU again.
4. Kill immo in new ECU again.
5. Put the ECU in the car - now you have correct software version and immo is off...

Old ECU is not important at all, you don't need read from it either, if you want to go the kill immo route.

Oh yeah. it's exactly what I thought but like I'm an lucky guy. It's not so easy.
So, I use the website you mentionned.
I kill the immo in the new ECU.
I put in the car.
I saw that Trouble code regarding the lock by immo dispapear in ECU (cool). But dash still have SAFE due to mismatch.
Anyway, I use ODIS-E to flash the good SW (FRF). Negative answer due to immo mismatch.

So, now, I'm little bored.

Thanks.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 12:21:42 PM
Hi again,

I did some others tests. It seems that the immo Off which I flashed is not correct.
I tried without dash, it's the ECU himslef which send immo status nok.
So, no flash possible...



Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: prj on October 07, 2024, 12:40:18 PM
Oh yeah. it's exactly what I thought but like I'm an lucky guy. It's not so easy.
So, I use the website you mentionned.

You did not use the website I mentioned. No idea what you used.

So the rest of your post seems like BS as well. What is your motivation behind lying?


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 12:52:28 PM
I'm sorry but  I don't understand.
I used exactly tools from website like you mentionned.
I'm sorry if I wrote a mistake regarding what I did.

In fact I didn't use excatly your shortcut because I had already paid in other website.
My mistake was to put complete file (eeprom and int_flash). so with just flash, it was ok to have a correct feedback.
I flashed it and it seems that it's not ok.

Sorry, if you're a thinking that I'm luing. It was not my goal.

Thanks again for your support


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 07, 2024, 12:57:27 PM
You did not use the website I mentioned. No idea what you used.

So the rest of your post seems like BS as well. What is your motivation behind lying?

I guess you are 100% sure that I have to use this website.
So I will sign in.

Do you know if it's possible to check the quality of immo off with both flash?
Probably to complex.

Thanks again.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: prj on October 07, 2024, 02:15:16 PM
I'm sorry but  I don't understand.
I used exactly tools from website like you mentionned.
I'm sorry if I wrote a mistake regarding what I did.

In fact I didn't use excatly your shortcut because I had already paid in other website.
My mistake was to put complete file (eeprom and int_flash). so with just flash, it was ok to have a correct feedback.
I flashed it and it seems that it's not ok.

Sorry, if you're a thinking that I'm luing. It was not my goal.

Thanks again for your support

Are you high or something?
I gave you link to working solution. You used something else or IDK what you did, and then said that the link does not work. WTF?


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 09, 2024, 08:55:08 AM
Hello Prj,

Yes I'm High. Unfortunately, I did a mistake, you didn't write this:

Transfer will not work by HSE. But disabling immo possible via same vendor you mentioned. There quite few suppliers online for that actually.

So I'm sorry.

However, like I mentioned. Before to do any forum request, I tried to find a solution alone. So I paid some tokens on a website and Like I was so stupid, I didn't be able to use it.
Then, I requested support and like the idea of Prj was great. I used my token to have a file with immo off instead off immo transfer (and less stupid in order to have positive answer).
I flashed it and it doesn't work.

I tried to explain this but it seems than it was not clear.
So know, after to falling down from High. I went to the website and I tested my file before pay the service.
And unfortunately, the answer is: ERROR: The file is not supported!
I used the Internal flash (4096Ko).

I'm really but really really happy to have this option on the website in order to check before to pay.

So thanks a lot, but it seems that I'm really unlucky OR COMPLETELY STUPID and what else.

Thanks for your time.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: IamwhoIam on October 09, 2024, 09:43:58 AM
What tool are you using in order to read and flash those ECUs?


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 09, 2024, 09:53:30 AM
What tool are you using in order to read and flash those ECUs?

I have a KT200 with latest Sw.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 11, 2024, 08:08:12 AM
Hi,

So I found why it doesn't work. Some parts of my dump is encrypted like I thought.
It seems that KT200 II tools is not enough to have a full decrypted Iflash.
For tuning seems ok because I checked with s19 file and tables are clear.

Thanks.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: IamwhoIam on October 11, 2024, 08:47:39 AM
Good luck using shit tools then. Send the car to someone competent and who uses proper tools in order to get the job done.


Title: Re: GOLF 7 Simos 18.1 Immo transfert
Post by: Frenchfries on October 11, 2024, 09:05:22 AM
Thanks for your time,

yes you're right.
No problem, I will do by another way.