NefMoto

This is very rough and is in no way complete enough yet.  I just wanted to share in case anyone else needs.

Just a few maps that are for sure -

has
LDRXN x6
LAMFA
KFLBTS
KFMIOP
KFMIRL

I have some addresses written down (Sometimes i hafta write it on paper - not sure why) that may be helpful to someone.

Currently working on KFTARX, KFMDIMX, KFZW/2 and FKKVS.  A few more and it should be good for tinkering on a car with no to very light modifications.

I apologize if anything isnt correct.

thank you , I will try to add more

Updated with LDPBN, KFLBTSLBKO, KFLDHBN

FKKVS and the timing maps are elusive ;)

Here is my contribution :P

Always there to save the day :D

I found that this file has 3 KFLBTS and KFLBTSLBKO - just like the LDRXN/LDRXNK

I'll post an updated mappack later on - (workng on a finding a few other things).

Updated Mappack

but we have no ori to work with , I could ID some maps too :)

it is posted in the ORI section  -  I'll post it here too :D

I have some USDM MKV and Some A3 stuff (that ddillenger gave me a gigantic start on) that ill post in the next few days for others to use.

This ori is apparently the same for MT, CVT and Tip6.

Does anyone want some of the fuel pump stuff? 

Post it ALL. I'll update my OLS and export a kp containing my stuff.

Def will tmw - got hung up the last few days with new car shopping...  On the fence looking at a 2013 abarth  :-\  Ive never had a car with a warranty to void

ericpaulyoung asked for this in csv...  so i rather post in case someone else needed it like that.

Perfect, thank you!! I am learning to modify and search for maps, and this is very helpful.
epy

You've already got a leg up with a background in Maestro. Now it's just a matter of putting the name to the map, and figuring out how to properly use it. You'll realize that Maestro employs a lot of hacks to do what it does :)

Ya, I agree. I feel a bit "mislead" in my understanding of what the ECU does. I am already starting to love this WinOLS so much though, I spent about 4 hours last night just scanning and looking for maps in a A3 hex dump.

Quick question. The 115G file has three sets of KFZW/KFZW2 maps. I guess that it employs a different set of maps based on what the conditions are, or it is a different set for the different transmission types. Is this correct? If so, which set is used for the manual cars?

$1C8428;KFZW;12x16
$1C84E8;KFZW2;12x16
$1C85A8;KFZW;12x16
$1C8668;KFZW2;12x16
$1C8728;KFZW;12x16
$1C87E8;KFZW2;12x16

That file is used for many different configurations. I'm not sure the order, but I am confident in saying that there are multiple maps to account for the differences in calibrations when dealing with auto vs manual, etc. That's usually the case. The FR might cover it, I don't recall. give it a read :0

I am working my way through the FR, and I am gaining an understanding as to why people can be proud/protective of their tunes. It is a lot of work and information. Really good stuff though, and I hope that I will be contributing to this forums with intelligent and useful information in the near future.

For now, I will just make changes to all parallel maps the same so that I know I am hitting the one I need.
epy

Yeah, if it were me and I was coming into this with a background in maestro, I would put real names to the maps I knew, and determine how they should be used based on the documentation :)

Or just ask dillinger all the time because hes friendly :D  JK

heres some hpfp things added.

I tinker with this file still but since its football season my roommate takes his b7 a4 to WV for every WVU Home game...  I did a bit more on the A3 files but i sold that car and got b7 s4 because im a glutton for punishment :D

big stupid grumbly gas guzzling oil burning v8...  but the sound it makes :D

and in csv

Looking at the KFLDRL map, I am unable to find an axis address that will match up. What address are you using for this map?

epy

its in the mappack.  Does it not show it in a csv map list?

Y axis 1CA5E4
X axis 1CF7F2

also - im pretty sure this one has 3 sets of rail pressure tables (like its 3 ldrxn, kfzw etc)

I can't open the darn mappack, as I have the 1.7.2 version of the program. Tried installing the newer version, but no luck :( So I am stuck trying to use this older one which is not very useful because I think I am the only one using it !

Let me check those addresses :) Thank you.
epy

OK, here is the weird thing. That address does not work. Maybe my file is not what it said it was?? I have no idea. Here is the file I am practicing on. It should be the same one.

Also, when I open the bin in Winols, it has this message. What does it mean, and what should I choose?

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/winolsmessage_zps50343586.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/ericpaulyoung/media/winolsmessage_zps50343586.jpg.html)

Are you using the original i posted in the ori section?  I think you've gotta read more before actually modifying a file.  Also try to get the newer winols so the mappack works and makes ur life way easier.

This isnt a good file to learn on at all - its harder than a normal MED9.1 because its got multiple of each table (one for tiptronic, one for cvt and one for manual).  Its a little more difficult than a mk5/a3 or even a slightly older B7 A4.

What kind of car are you trying to modify? 

I am actually not even trying to modify anything yet; just trying to get a hang of identifying maps. That's it, and I am already getting stuck :/ A little frustrating, but I guess it is part of the process.

I "think" it is the file you posted, but I will check to make sure. With my memory, I could just be on the wrong file :)

The car to be modified is a 2008 A4 2.0 FSI. I have tuned it myself for the last couple years on Maestro with great success. Before that, it was on APR tunes. The car is modified from top to bottom; some good, some maybe not perfect, but definitely nothing is left of it that is stock. You can read most of the car's life story on AZ (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/480302-(ericpaulyoung)-Small-Frame-Turbo-Build).

In its current incarnation, it is being prepped with sequential turbos (GT25 and a GT35) and some fueling stuff.

epy

Looking at the LAMFA, I think the start address should be 1D6D8A instead of 1D6D89.

What (address, factor, offset) are you using for the x and y axis for LAMFA?
epy

LAMFA:

There are 3.

1D6D8A
1D6E02
1D6E7A

Always be weary of maps that are not 16 bit aligned (start at an odd number).

Cool. I thought the address in the mappack was off. I am starting to get the hang of this (I think) :)

What are the addresses/factor/offset you are using for the x and y axis for LAMFA and KFLBTS?

epy

For anybody that is interested, I think I found the injector constant at address 1D8392

Well engine is assembled, and I am sliding it back in the car. BDM100 is working, and WinOLS is starting to make sense. So I should be able to test out my first tune based on the information here on nefmoto within a month or so. Depends on how much time I find to get all the systems back into the car with the new baby taking up most of my time.

Then I should be able to start contributing some information back to the forums on 115G tuning. Thank you guys for helping me with the newbe questions as I work up the learning curve.

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/A77D6EF5-B8C1-4502-AC3E-2DFB83036866_zpsaijufrlk.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/ericpaulyoung/media/A77D6EF5-B8C1-4502-AC3E-2DFB83036866_zpsaijufrlk.jpg.html)
(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/5358D1B8-8A77-4171-8046-C106EB6424AF_zpsb5xs4cwt.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/ericpaulyoung/media/5358D1B8-8A77-4171-8046-C106EB6424AF_zpsb5xs4cwt.jpg.html)

For those out there that have the older version of WinOLS, I have attached my ols file that has sufficient maps defined for tuning. (I cannot directly attach it because I am limited in the file size, but a link to my google drive is below).

I hope this is helpful for those that need it. It is of a 115G ECU with software version 389075. It is stock except for some changes I started playing with in the LAMF and KFLDRL.
epy

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dO8JDytq50cUwtVUdVSk1ZbFE/view?usp=sharing

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/readytotune_zpsde3506ed.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/ericpaulyoung/media/readytotune_zpsde3506ed.jpg.html)

this x 10000

Is a map in my file wrong? Or are you talking about the automatically identified map in the image that WinOLS identified as a "possible map"?

epy

Just wanted to emphasize DD's post, since there are a ton of Damos/A2L mappacks around that have offset problems.

This is the context of my comment. Nye was just agreeing. It's a helpful hint. MOST maps will be 16bit aligned (even numbers/letters).

Yup, all the maps in that file were not from a mappack (I couldn't find one for WinOLS version 1.72), so I had to find them and add them by myself (so be warned, I am an amateur at this). But I think those few that are in that file are OK. I will see when my car is together and I flash it! :)
epy

I  Just noticed that lamfa address being off  :-\

my bad   :o

fixed - also updated some other things.  I used 0.029 for s3 injectors for inj constant

Will you repost the mapack or did you just update your earlier post?

EPY

sry -

Roger that! 

EPY

In case someone wants it, I took the latest 115G kp file, and open each and every map and recorded the address/factor/offset/size/byte-type in a spreadsheet. It is in Open Office format. As soon as I buy a copy of Excel for my Windows box, I will transfer it over (or someone else can).

epy

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/maps_zps61d70569.jpg)

After copying all the info to the spreadsheet, I have started to create the maps in the older version of WinOLS and found a couple errors. The LAMFA tables in the kp file all use the same axis addresses, but they do not share axis. I believe they should be as shown in the bold. I will report back all other oddities I find.

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/lamfa_zps04ae960d.jpg) (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/ericpaulyoung/media/lamfa_zps04ae960d.jpg.html)

All LAMFA that I have seen has used an internal axis (unique to that specific map). It directly precedes the map.

I only have the trial version of the newer WinOLS and I cannot export/save the mappack. So someone else will have to update the mappack in this thread. As soon as I get all the maps transferred and somewhat verified, I will post the mappack for the older version of WinOLS. I might then try to make a tunerpro definition also. Then the 115G should be open to everyone. I hope this helps promote more tuning advances for the 115G.
EPY

I have found what looks like a second KFMIOP map in the 115G file. The kp file has the KFMIOP at:
 1CD3B2/1CD39C/1CD37C (map address/x axis address/y axis address)

but it looks like there is a second KFMIOP at:
1CA6E8/1CA6D2/1CA6B2

They are ALMOST exactly the same, but the values are slightly different.

Which one is the correct KFMIOP map?

(http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/KFMIOPcompare_zps8a9b3470.jpg)

Nevermind, they are EXACTLY the same. What gives? I thought there was only one KFMIOP.
epy

one set could be there for cars in europe with stratified inj??

Thats what I expect it is (KFMIOPS) - USA cars dont use it.

Yup, I think that was me just not getting the "S" map. Also, since I think I am the only one using 1.72 Winols, I got a hold of 2.24 from a friend and can just use the mappack everyone else is working on.

epy

the S map isnt used on usa cars - i havent even been adding them to mappacks

I think i have all the lamfa stuff sorted in the mappack - ill update it later today.  I also have a reasonably complete 8p0907115p 2007 A3 mappack i'll upload along with a 2006 A3 8P0907115B.

Good stuff. Thanks!
EPY

Did you upload the files somewhere?
EPY

sry - got a new laptop and havent had a chance yet - hopefully tmw

Here is my latest. A bunch of stuff added. Most recently are the 3 maps for the flapperz :)

Thank you Daz for Map 1 :)

EPY

I'm working on a stage I for this file and I am currently running into two issues.

1) Load is limited, in that my highest boost request is around 1 bar.  I've just run across LDPBN, and increased this and perhaps this will be the limit that I am encountering... Will test shortly... EDIT: nope, limit is still lower than expected.  Edit #2 figured this out.  Just missed some common stuff.

2) LAMFA fueling comes in too slowly.  My first thought is that it's a low pass filter, such as KFTLAFA, similar the the B6 A4's.  Maybe TLAMFAS? This one I am unsure about, so if someone has some direction it'd be appreciated.  EDIT - KFTLAFA found 1d6a8a & 1d6aba.  Will try later.

These questions should probably be in tuning, but they're specific to 115G.  I have not had the same issues with the MKV's or A3's I've worked on.