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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: _nameless on August 19, 2014, 07:19:38 AM



Title: vnt on gas?
Post by: _nameless on August 19, 2014, 07:19:38 AM
I acquired a 2260vk for free, friend of mine upgraded to a 2566vk on his alh. im working on a 2l / 20v turbo in my spare time... its a AZG block h beam rods and forged pistons, factory crank. Head is from a AWM. So my question is If i use this turbo on gas engine will it fail from heat?
Ive looked around for the last few weeks and have found conflicting answers. My fear is vanes will fail from heat.
Thanks,
Marty
 


Title: Re: vnt on gas?
Post by: littco on August 20, 2014, 12:53:16 AM
I acquired a 2260vk for free, friend of mine upgraded to a 2566vk on his alh. im working on a 2l / 20v turbo in my spare time... its a AZG block h beam rods and forged pistons, factory crank. Head is from a AWM. So my question is If i use this turbo on gas engine will it fail from heat?
Ive looked around for the last few weeks and have found conflicting answers. My fear is vanes will fail from heat.
Thanks,
Marty
 

Reason vnt is used on TDI is that they run cooler, on a gas car egts can reach over 950degrees which will just cause issues with the vnt.

The new Porsches are vnt turbos and they had to be pretty heavily modified to get them to work, there is no doubt though that vnt is definitely a better and more efficient turbo.

Also need to consider that the TDI/vnt work on vacuum rather than boost to control the boost, that would need to rectified.


Title: Re: vnt on gas?
Post by: coreyj03 on August 22, 2014, 08:04:39 PM
let me buy that vnt off of you!  i have a gt3082 up for sale.. maybe trade


Title: Re: Re: Re: vnt on gas?
Post by: TheSupervisor on August 23, 2014, 06:09:16 AM
Reason vnt is used on TDI is that they run cooler, on a gas car egts can reach over 950degrees which will just cause issues with the vnt.

The new Porsches are vnt turbos and they had to be pretty heavily modified to get them to work, there is no doubt though that vnt is definitely a better and more efficient turbo.

Also need to consider that the TDI/vnt work on vacuum rather than boost to control the boost, that would need to rectified.
Egt on my stock 3.0tdi can go as high as 1300f. Even just cruising on the freeway it can sit at 8-900f with just a moderate incline and a touch of throttle.  So at least some of them have been engineered for the higher temps.


Title: Re: vnt on gas?
Post by: MyTunes on September 17, 2014, 08:17:38 AM
Some of the newer VNT/ VGT turbo's, have an electronic wastegate which can be controlled like an N75 valve.



Title: Re: vnt on gas?
Post by: TheDSI on September 18, 2014, 12:55:42 AM
don't go over 900°C and it will be fine