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Title: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on September 06, 2014, 09:31:27 PM
can someone check this out please. Im barely getting my setup running. i have my stock MAF hitachi with ev14 550cc injectors. 38mm wastegate, stock fuel pump, t70 turbo with T4 .68AR hotside. 17psi right now. This log is with a stage 2 file running off of wastgate spring. i have a wideband gauge and its hitting 11.8afr-12.0afr. The pull starts at mark 2333 and ends at mark 2567 in the file below.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: ddillenger on September 06, 2014, 10:06:06 PM
Your log is bad, and your approach is wrong. Use ME7Logger, select the typical mark p variables, and get a real log. Why log some random stage2 file?


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on September 07, 2014, 02:12:51 AM
Your log is bad, and your approach is wrong. Use ME7Logger, select the typical mark p variables, and get a real log. Why log some random stage2 file?

Your right about why log a stage 2 file but I don't have anything else to start with. The car feels good with this file and the air fuel is ok so far. I know there is way more to it than thay. I will get the right logs. What would you recommend for me to start my Single turbo file? 


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on September 30, 2014, 12:49:58 AM
I finally had time to log the car. please let me know if i did it right. I used the mark p type logs with visual logger. Also, i have egts disabled, all emission deleted and rear o2s deleted, i dont have my MAP sensor plugged in yet, and using wastegate pressure. I have stock MAF with Hitachi sensor and coded in ev15 550 117 injectors and stock fuel pump on 4bar. My AFR on my wideband is in the 10s on WOT and feel sluggish up top when it hits 10 flat. i open the file below with notepad.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: nyet on September 30, 2014, 10:10:39 AM
Please post raw csvs.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on September 30, 2014, 11:05:28 AM
Please post raw csvs.
Ok I'll do that today when I get home from work. Thanks


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: adam- on September 30, 2014, 02:09:26 PM
Mine ran unbelievably horribly without the MAP plugged in.

Misfires, bucking, no boost.  Horrible. Ew.  Get hardware fixed before you do anything else man.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on September 30, 2014, 03:34:46 PM
Please post raw csvs.

hope these are the right logs.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on September 30, 2014, 03:38:32 PM
Mine ran unbelievably horribly without the MAP plugged in.

Misfires, bucking, no boost.  Horrible. Ew.  Get hardware fixed before you do anything else man.
Im going to get it plugged in this weekend. i fixed some of the problems with it. replaced some coils. put in new plugs, injector seal and boost leaks. so far now the car feels like it pulls good just when my wideband goes to 10flat it feels sluggish. mainly 10 flat on 3rd and 4th gear pulls on WOT.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: nyet on September 30, 2014, 04:14:34 PM
Logging with hardware that is broken (or that you are about to change) is a huge waste of time...

So ya, don't bother until the hardware is 100%.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on September 30, 2014, 04:21:58 PM
Logging with hardware that is broken (or that you are about to change) is a huge waste of time...

So ya, don't bother until the hardware is 100%.
I understand. I'll hook everything up and re-log. But as far as logging is it the right way and file format?


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on October 09, 2014, 04:10:48 PM
Logging with hardware that is broken (or that you are about to change) is a huge waste of time...

So ya, don't bother until the hardware is 100%.
I finally was able to get log after hooking up my the Map Sensor and replacing the ECT sensor.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: ddillenger on October 09, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
You are not logging enough to do good work. Also, why haven't you increased boost request? I think a single turbo can handle more than 12psi at redline....


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: nyet on October 09, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
Please log wgdc and i-max

Also, why are you requesting so much boost so soon? You're asking for limp... i'd delay peak req load till at least 3k, if not 3.5k


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on October 09, 2014, 04:21:03 PM
You are not logging enough to do good work. Also, why haven't you increased boost request? I think a single turbo can handle more than 12psi at redline....
my n75 is electronically plugged in but not being used. Im doing 17psi wastegate spring.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on October 09, 2014, 04:24:28 PM
Please log wgdc and i-max

Also, why are you requesting so much boost so soon? You're asking for limp... i'd delay peak req load till at least 3k, if not 3.5k
i will go back in and log those as well but im not using the N75. just wastegate spring. where on tuner pro do i go to delay peak request load?


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on October 09, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
im using this stage 2 file as a base file to work with. Thank you guys for helping and im ready to do whatever so my car can run right.


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: nyet on October 09, 2014, 04:46:23 PM
i will go back in and log those as well but im not using the N75.
Not really needed then, but IMO you really should be using N75 control

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where on tuner pro do i go to delay peak request load?

http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Positive_deviation


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: emtdiaz on October 09, 2014, 04:58:42 PM
Not really needed then, but IMO you really should be using N75 control

http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning#Positive_deviation
Thank you for the link. i will read into delaying peak req. i opened it on tuner pro LDRXN_1_A
and not sure what the number mean and how to delay it.

Also, what would be the benefit of using the N75?


Title: Re: 01 s4 2.7 single tubro 2nd-3rd gear log
Post by: nyet on October 09, 2014, 05:04:24 PM
Thank you for the link. i will read into delaying peak req. i opened it on tuner pro LDRXN_1_A
and not sure what the number mean and how to delay it.

Uh. By now you should know the relationship between load and boost :/

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Also, what would be the benefit of using the N75?

:(

Same thing. You really shouldn't be tuning w/o some of this basic knowledge :(