NefMoto

Just getting started with tuner pro and on nefmoto forums.

Goal:  To create a tune for my car and anyone who has a similar set up.

I figured this post will good a good way to learn and share what I learn and any advise I get.

This will be running 550cc or 630cc injectors at 4bar.
Full exhaust upgrade.
Bosch 044 or equivalent.
Upgraded intercooling.
Silicone TIP
TSI coils.

This tune should work on any awp with similar mods with little or no tweaks.

Any help advise or a base tune to build from would be much appreciated.

Hello,

How far are you in the tune ? 550cc with 4b is ok. Don't buy Deka 630cc, they are more difficult to tune than Genesis 550cc;

2 difficult things with E85 :
- cold start, you probably need lots of trials
- tune for MBT (at WOT and at low loads)

OK I will probably go with the Bosch 550cc ev14 style. I am not far on this tune at all. I could really use a base tune to work from and tweak for e85

This is the wrong way to go about anything. A base file? Why? If you don't understand motronic well enough to start from scratch, you don't know motronic well enough to differentiate between a good base and a bad base, and you certainly aren't ready to be DIY'ing E85.

A 2001 is also narrowband. You're going to need to get the injectors, get a wideband, then log and get fueling inline first. I suggest doing that on pump gas.

If your going to run E85, I would recommend 1000s from a reputable vendor.

Once you calculate krkte basic driveability will be there.

This is the worst advice I've ever heard.

This is not a B6, it has a rising rate FPR. 550's are fine, 60lb are perfect. Who wants single tip firehose shit ass 1000cc injectors? Noone. Noone wants them.

2001 awp in a TT is wideband

And as far as this goes ...its the car I have its what I'm learning on. I have made adjustments if uni-settings for e85, so its a mattet of learning my way around the maps and some more refined skills.  Also I'm pretty sure in my post I mentioned I have no idea what I'm doing so thanks for the help

Well, you have wideband going for you.

Best bet, get a solid stage1/2 file done on pump gas. After that, start migrating towards E85. I suggest checking out the community project, and finding those maps in your binary.

Early 2001 TT had an ATC engine code that was narrow band.

Awesome thank you. I have been reading threw the wiki and the various community projects its going to be a long process I imagine. I just figured this would be a good place to house all the answers to the dumb questions I and I sure many others ask.

Not trying to give you a hard time, but this is surely a case of putting the cart before the horse. You'll have an uphill battle for sure.

Wile I have your attention I almost went with erodine maestro but I figured if was willing to put in the learning time this was a better option. Was I wrong.  Its not about the money.

I am running e85 all the time, and it is cold over here.
Cold start and warm up can be dialed in just perfect.
Mine is running flawlessly, as well as some friends cars I helped.
It does take a lot of trials, but it is not an issue.

Lucky man, it will be easier !

First, change the injectors, modify KRKTE / TVUB / FKKVS and log to check; Fuel trims sould be near 0%;

When fueling is ok, then you can add boost. Be careful with high boost with E85, think about your rods !

Maybe I'm wrong, but if it has narrowband O2, it will try to set AFR to 14.7 and I dont think 14.7 is ok for E85.

Narrowband reads lambda, so it's ok;

I ran E85 on my AWW w/stock turbo.  The 850s saw almost 65%idc, which is borderline maxed out with something smaller as suggested before.

That being said, my experience is limited to USRT 1000s and I can assure those will work well.

65% at 3bar or 4bar ? I am I fan of all things usrt but I don't have any info or logs from people running 1000cc on a stock turbo and corn. Not saying its doesn't run great because I don't have the knowledge or first hand experience to say other wise but I wouldn't know where to start with those injectors.

3 bar

yea 1000's would  be overkill. I switched my car to E85 on the stockers so I could get a great idea of what size injectors I'll eventually need. I've got it pinned at 90% IDC from 3k-redline. Around 75 LDRXN at redline  8) haha. I guess what I'm saying is that was my version of a 'base map' so now when I buy mods I won't be tuning E85 + mods I'll just be tuning mods. Something in the 650cc range would be perfect IMO.

I read your thread and subscribed to it. Ya I figured 550's and 4 bar should be about right will be putting out almost exactly the same as 630's at 3bar and that is what a lot of people running a ko3 or ko4 use.

Because E85 burns slower than gasoline it puts less stress on your rods.

With the same boost and timing adjust, you will have way more torque with E85 than with 93 octane; So, starting with 1,2bar is a good idea (vs 1,45BAR);

More, if you tune past MBT, it's dangerous for rods too;

550's with 4B FPR is good;