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Noob Zone => Noob Questions => Topic started by: TurboWarrior on June 29, 2015, 07:12:35 AM



Title: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 29, 2015, 07:12:35 AM
Hi, what's the best way to setup a work bench outside the cars? I.e what connectors I need ect?


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: k0mpresd on June 29, 2015, 08:08:26 AM
ecu , obd2, psu.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 29, 2015, 09:33:55 AM
ecu , obd2, psu.

I've got all three.. I've got an old PSU from a computer, What wires am I soldering ect? is there a useful guide I can follow


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: turboat on June 29, 2015, 10:37:12 AM
These threads show you which pins need connecting for a me7.1 and me7.5 respectively:

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=417.0title=

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6324.0title=

me7.5 (1.8t) needs an extra pin powering up. Its pretty straight forwards, you only need +12v power, earth and k-line.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 29, 2015, 01:24:53 PM
These threads show you which pins need connecting for a me7.1 and me7.5 respectively:

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=417.0title=

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6324.0title=

me7.5 (1.8t) needs an extra pin powering up. Its pretty straight forwards, you only need +12v power, earth and k-line.

Cheers does this work with - 06A906018CG - ME3.8.3 IIRC?


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: turboat on June 30, 2015, 12:24:19 AM
Yes there is a pin out for m3.8.3 around somewhere, but you cannot read that ecu using the k-line, only write it - although nefmoto doesn't work for that, you need mpps


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 30, 2015, 05:35:38 AM
So how would I edit the existing map on the Ecu it's self?


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: tjwasiak on June 30, 2015, 06:40:13 AM
Desolder, read using programmer, resolder and then flash it as needed.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 30, 2015, 10:06:47 AM
Desolder, read using programmer, resolder and then flash it as needed.

Hi, what do you mean desolder I'm really new to this and I'm willing to learn.. is there a document I could read?


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: nyet on June 30, 2015, 10:22:36 AM
Hi, what do you mean desolder I'm really new to this and I'm willing to learn.. is there a document I could read?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLHqotibc7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmqXinMBUeA

Hot air is preferable


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 30, 2015, 10:37:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLHqotibc7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmqXinMBUeA

Hot air is preferable

Ok thanks for that, so how would you read the chip?


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: nyet on June 30, 2015, 11:05:44 AM
Ok thanks for that, so how would you read the chip?

EEPROM programmer, such as a willem

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/chip-burner


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 30, 2015, 11:48:55 AM
EEPROM programmer, such as a willem

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/chip-burner

This one any good? -http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TL866CS-USB-Universal-Minipro-Programmer-EEPROM-FLASH-8051-AVR-MCU-GAL-PIC-SPI-L-/161736984370?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item25a8468732


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 30, 2015, 12:04:34 PM
Would this be fin to act as a powering up for the work bench? if so does anyone no what Wires are what because I ain't got a clue :/

Sorry for the noobie questions! I'm egar to learn

(http://i.imgur.com/3RdbdOC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NPvl1Sh.jpg)


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: nyet on June 30, 2015, 12:07:48 PM
Yellow is typically 12V, but you'll want to double check with a volt meter.

Also, a PC supply is probably overkill... you can make do with a 1000mA 12v wall wart.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 30, 2015, 12:11:29 PM
Yellow is typically 12V, but you'll want to double check with a volt meter.

Also, a PC supply is probably overkill... you can make do with a 1000mA 12v wall wart.

Would it be fine to use? I'm trying to do this on a budget sort of thing, going scrapyard Saturday to pick up an obd port and ecu plugging s


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: nyet on June 30, 2015, 12:14:13 PM
Would it be fine to use? I'm trying to do this on a budget sort of thing, going scrapyard Saturday to pick up an obd port and ecu plugging s

Ya, you're fine. Just double check the voltage.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on June 30, 2015, 12:15:44 PM
Okay, Ill report back when I need some more help :D cheers nyet


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on July 01, 2015, 09:47:30 AM
Still struggling, I'm trying to find the 12v on this psu but ain't getting anything back from the Multimeter


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: nyet on July 01, 2015, 10:35:55 AM
Still struggling, I'm trying to find the 12v on this psu but ain't getting anything back from the Multimeter

All PSUs have a momentary "on" lead that has to be shorted to bring up the PSU. It is assumed you knew this.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on July 01, 2015, 01:43:41 PM
Other than plugging the PSU and powering it on.. I had a understanding something had to be jumper in order to actually power the PSU.. hence why I plug it in and the PSU fan doesn't spin even though It's powered

Anyhow I've manged to jump it Green + Black = PSU power.. Getting a 12v from the yellow and Black is an earth


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: turboat on July 02, 2015, 01:58:21 AM
That sounds right.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: turboat on July 02, 2015, 02:00:00 AM
EEPROM programmer, such as a willem

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/chip-burner

Ok theyre a lot cheaper than I expected!


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: nyet on July 02, 2015, 10:14:05 AM
Ok theyre a lot cheaper than I expected!

Make sure you get a PSOP44 adapter!


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: tjwasiak on July 02, 2015, 10:20:35 AM
It might be wise to buy also proper adapter for EEPROMs...


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on July 02, 2015, 11:16:17 AM
I've just installed MPPS V13 - I've loaded the program up and I cannot find the ECU.. the only one listed is the 1.8T me5.8.5 IIRC I can't find the me3.8.3


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on July 02, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
the pins on the me3.8.3 ecu are different also


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: turboat on July 02, 2015, 11:23:17 PM
Pins:
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/ME38.jpg)

(Found by google image search for 'mpps m3.8.3')


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on July 03, 2015, 02:22:55 AM
Thanks I managed to do it after I posted that last night ;) next problem In MPPS I can't actually find the ME3.8.3 I know you cant read from the ecu.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: tjwasiak on July 03, 2015, 02:40:33 AM
You should look for M3.8.3 as it is not DBW ECU :D


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on July 03, 2015, 03:24:03 AM
That's the thing in MPPS itself I can't find the ecu listed for ME3.8.3


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: eliotroyano on July 03, 2015, 04:43:46 AM
That's the thing in MPPS itself I can't find the ecu listed for ME3.8.3

Look for any 1.8T M592 ECU......


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: TurboWarrior on July 03, 2015, 11:48:56 AM
Won't read it :/


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: eliotroyano on July 03, 2015, 11:51:16 AM
With MPPS you will be able to ID and WRITE only, M383's ECUs. READ is not possible.


Title: Re: Workbench setups help
Post by: eliotroyano on July 03, 2015, 07:31:21 PM
With MPPS you will be able to ID and WRITE only, M383's ECUs. READ is not possible.

Take a look,