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Ok I'll try to make a long story short here. I did a wack of upgrades, big turbo, intake, fuel rail, FMIC blah blah blah anyways.  Wideband conversion and got an ecu from a 2001 A4 1.8T Quattro Auto with the ecu model number 4B0 906 018 CH.
Now all the tuners I talked to assured me this ecu would work for my car with a few coding issues that it would have to be sent in for, Immo delete and such. Engine starts great, sounds awesome but the transmission will not shift gears. I can go in reverse and drive, but it shift's to hard 4th IE Trans limp mode. I'm getting error code P1841 when I scan my auto trans module in VCDS. I also checked all the coding between my old ecu and the upgraded one and it is all the same except for the engine code being changed due to having a wideband ecu now.. I'm wondering if it's caused by the engine code digit Via Can on block 013 in the trans module. Stock ecu number is 22 and the tuned ecu is 34. Also the Can data version on stock ecu is 3 and on he tuned ecu it is 10. As it sits I have a $17,000 boat anchor with an engine that sounds awesome lol Any help  would be greatly appreciated!

Below are scans from VCDS with both the original and new ECU

Stock Scan With VCDS:


Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B5 (1995 > 2001)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
 
   Mileage: 188890km-117370miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 058-906-018-ATW.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 906 018 Q
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0006 
   Coding: 07251
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 2F677849EDF89859C61-5178

4 Faults Found:
17956 - Boost Pressure Regulation Valve (N75)
            P1548 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17526 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S2
            P1118 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17840 - Secondary Air Injection Solenoid Valve (N112)
            P1432 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17695 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249)
            P1287 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 927 156 AP
   Component: AG5 01V 1.8l5VT USA 3132 
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 7BFF9C196900B4F93A9-5178

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-111-EDS.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 614 111 A
   Component: ABS/EDS 5.3 QUATTRO D10 
   Shop #: BB 24334 
   VCID: 1C3DBF858C4E13C1933-5178

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
   Part No: 8D0     ?082
   Component: 8D0820043P  A4     KLIMA 
   VCID: 57B7E0A9B5E8B0997E1-25AA

2 Faults Found:
00787 - Temperature Sensor in Fresh Air intake duct (G89)
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 959 655 K
   Component: Airbag Front+Seite 1002 
   Coding: 00104
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 3E79550D3A9261D15D7-5178

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 920 930 D
   Component: B5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D11   
   Coding: 00344
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 27579069C508C0190E1-515A

2 Faults Found:
01304 - Radio
            49-00 - No Communications
01311 - Information Data Bus
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels: 8D0-862-257.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 862 257 N
   Component: CV-Pump             D11 
   Coding: 16140
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 40852BF5406617212FB-4F1E

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03 
   Coding: 00101
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 60C5CB75E0A677210FB-4B64

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8D0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 035 195 A
   Component:  Radio              D00 
   Coding: 00115
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 244D8765B43E2B012B3-4B18

No fault code found.

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****And with the CH ECU:

Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B5 (1995 > 2001)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
 
   Mileage: 188890km-117370miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06B-906-018-AWM.clb
   Part No: 4B0 906 018 CH
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0002 
   Coding: 16251
   Shop #: WSC 88641 
   VCID: 69D3D651139C3669D85-515A

7 Faults Found:
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1650 - 35-00 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster
17956 - Boost Pressure Regulation Valve (N75)
            P1548 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17837 - Circuit for Brake Vacuum Pump
            P1429 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17939 - Camshaft Timing Adjustment
            P1531 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17840 - Secondary Air Injection Solenoid Valve (N112)
            P1432 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
17695 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249)
            P1287 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
18320 - Pressure Sensor for Brake Boost (G294)
            P1912 - 35-00 - Short to Plus
Readiness: 0010 1000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 927 156 AP
   Component: AG5 01V 1.8l5VT USA 3132 
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 7BFF9C196900B4F93A9-5178

1 Fault Found:
18249 - Engine Control Module / Transmission Control Module Incompatible
            P1841 - 35-00 -

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-111-EDS.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 614 111 A
   Component: ABS/EDS 5.3 QUATTRO D10 
   Shop #: BB 24334 
   VCID: 1C3DBF858C4E13C1933-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8D0-820-043-1D.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 820 043 P
   Component: A4     KLIMAAUTOMAT D57 
   Coding: 00040
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 2D5B6241E7F4EA49F4D-25AA

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 959 655 K
   Component: Airbag Front+Seite 1002 
   Coding: 00104
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 3E79550D3A9261D15D7-5178

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 920 930 D
   Component: B5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D11   
   Coding: 00344
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 27579069C508C0190E1-515A

1 Fault Found:
01311 - Information Data Bus
            37-00 - Faulty

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels: 8D0-862-257.lbl
   Part No: 8L0 862 257 N
   Component: CV-Pump             D11 
   Coding: 16140
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 40852BF5406617212FB-4F1E

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
   Part No: 4B0 951 173
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03 
   Coding: 00101
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 60C5CB75E0A677210FB-4B64

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8D0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 8D0 035 195 A
   Component:  Radio              D00 
   Coding: 00115
   Shop #: WSC 06335 
   VCID: 244D8765B43E2B012B3-4B00

No fault code found.

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FYI New2tune posted this scan for me as I can't post yet as a noob, instrument cluster faults are gone, they were there because I was playing with some adaptations with the radio is all. Still having same issue of p1841.  Trans works fine with original ecu, code pops up instantly and comes back instantly when car is running. I can perform all output tests on the trans with the engine off in VCDS regardless of ecu installed and they all pass.
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I've been told by Greg @ United motorsports that this issue is due to my auto trans being a EFQ model and not the FAL that is much more common. Does anyone know how to change that coding in the ecu? Can it be done through Eeprom? 
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I've been told by Greg @ United motorsports that this issue is due to my auto trans being a EFQ model and not the FAL that is much more common. Does anyone know how to change that coding in the ecu? Can it be done through Eeprom? 

EEPROM - no, flash - yes.

You need to modify:
FMOTC, CWGC, CANVERS in the new software to match those of the original. It should work fine afterwards.
Check that MDNORM matches too.
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EEPROM - no, flash - yes.

You need to modify:
FMOTC, CWGC, CANVERS in the new software to match those of the original. It should work fine afterwards.
Check that MDNORM matches too.

Thanks a lot Nubcake! I'm getting new2tune to have a look into this for me now. I really appreciate the reply. We were starting on a narrowband tune for my car because I couldn't get the wideband ecu working with it. I'll love you long time if this works out for me! Thank you again! I'll post wether it works out shortly.
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EEPROM - no, flash - yes.

You need to modify:
FMOTC, CWGC, CANVERS in the new software to match those of the original. It should work fine afterwards.
Check that MDNORM matches too.

IT WORKED, IT WORKED!! Thank you kindly Nubcake. This has been causing me so much stress, you have no idea.
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