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« Reply #570 on: February 01, 2015, 03:59:31 PM »

mpps 13.02 clone doesnt work on 2007/2008 115G...  Kess works though

bdm also works - opening those things up takes a lil while...  bone tools, butter knives and heat gun Cheesy
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« Reply #571 on: February 01, 2015, 04:33:08 PM »

my v12 clone works on my 2007 115h
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« Reply #572 on: February 01, 2015, 05:40:17 PM »

It wont work on a 07-08 A4 with 115g though...  I've tried...  A lot.
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« Reply #573 on: February 01, 2015, 07:13:06 PM »

I see v12 and v13.02 all over ebay. I see a v16 on Amazon although everywhere else lists v13.02 as the latest version.
I know they are all cheepo china copies, but is there really a significant difference between them?

It seems like all the BDM clones are the same unit as well. Anything to look for in these or just go for the cheapest option and hope it works?

Any way to use a cloned vag-tacho cable with mpps software and have it do the same thing? Or is there something special in the hardware that requires me to buy a cable?
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« Reply #574 on: February 03, 2015, 05:39:23 AM »

the chinese mpps v12/v13 doesnt work on b7 a4 - even though its listed that they do...  Kess v2 works - I've been told but cannot verify myself that euro clone mmps v16 works though.  Chinese BDM does work.  I just use that as backup in case.

The fellas that told you it works on their cars dont have audis Wink
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« Reply #575 on: February 12, 2015, 09:12:31 PM »

ya mines vw
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« Reply #576 on: February 13, 2015, 02:17:21 PM »

**Fuel cuts in log visible on pulls starting at rows 1650 & 2700.**

I got a couple hard cuts earlier, while not logging, just driving.

Logged later after restoring stock overrun settings, and LDRXN reduced 185 until 5,500 where it's raised to 190 to redline. You can see from the file attached that actual lambda tracks specified pretty well although not with great precision. Why is it so jumpy? Poor HP fueling calibration?

Looking at the parts of the log with high load / injection times, it becomes apparent that the car is getting serious fuel cuts upper 4,000 RPM range. I have not had any HARD fuel cuts whatsoever while tuning this car up until earlier today. Yesterday I replaced my fuel filter and then logged the car for about 30 or 45 minutes on the road that but didn't experience any hard fuel cuts.

HPFP settings:

Rail pressures, limiter: 129 bar currently (RS4 relief valve)
VHDP: 377 (50% over stock,but is it correct for 9.8mm piston?)
RQUAHDPK: 24 mm^2 (my IE HPFP is 9.8mm piston, not 9.5 like APR pump. How to check the value for 9.8mm piston?)

I'm a little confused about calculating RQUAHDPK and consequently VHDP because a 9.8mm diameter piston does not have an area even close to 24mm^2, a value 50% over stock and probably close for this calibration if not exact.

Also, nowhere in the LAMFA or BTS do I specify an AFR richer than .8, however, in the log the ecu is seen to REQUEST AFR in the .7s.

Is it possible my LPFP / LPFP controller is a problem here, and unable to keep up at higher flows? I was tapping out 5th gear on a regular basis before today without having hard fuel cuts, just load pulled into the 150s by redline.

Your HPFP calibrations are correct:

RQUAHDPK = Piston radius ^2 or square of RQUAHDPK == piston radius >> 24.01 for Autotech HPFP (9.8mm piston)

You should make it slightly leaner, around 0.83 would be optimal.

Even with Autotech you will fall short of fuel below 5krpm.

I also suggest that you request the maximum rail pressure from 4000rpm and lower below that (e.g. 5 bars).

With those loads your LPFP shouldn´t be a problem.
With 330hp my stock LPFP has 77% duty.
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« Reply #577 on: February 14, 2015, 11:05:09 AM »

Could someone tell me the map names needed to adjust the rev limiter?

I´ve tried all limiters listed in MED9 FR and they have no effect what so ever.
No matter if I set them to zero.

Need to raise the limiter from 6800rpm to prevent the boost spike when the TB closes.
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« Reply #578 on: February 14, 2015, 09:07:15 PM »

Check this out, it has the correct limiter. There are several for varying conditions but one general revlimiter. I forget what it's called but should be obvious when you see the map names / descriptions.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6882.0title=

majorahole also posted a binary in original ECU defs to go along with this file if that makes things easier.
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« Reply #579 on: February 14, 2015, 09:29:38 PM »

Check this out, it has the correct limiter. There are several for varying conditions but one general revlimiter. I forget what it's called but should be obvious when you see the map names / descriptions.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6882.0title=

majorahole also posted a binary in original ECU defs to go along with this file if that makes things easier.

Already tried all of those.
I doubt those adjustemnts are working unless NMAX is adjusted.
He doesn´t have it even defined.
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« Reply #580 on: February 14, 2015, 09:40:08 PM »

I changed it and watched the results with my own eyes on my own car using his map pack. Dunno what to tell you.
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« Reply #581 on: February 14, 2015, 10:07:12 PM »

I am not the only one with the same issue on this ECU version.
As far as I know, no one has managed to raise the rev limiter on it (8P0907115).
Also the other "error" limiters (oil temp, speed signal etc) seem to be configured differently on this ECU.

I would need to find proven a binary with a raised limiter so I could compare it against mine in IDA.
Unfortunately these are hard to find.
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« Reply #582 on: February 14, 2015, 10:29:27 PM »

I am not the only one with the same issue on this ECU version.
As far as I know, no one has managed to raise the rev limiter on it (8P0907115).
Also the other "error" limiters (oil temp, speed signal etc) seem to be configured differently on this ECU.

I would need to find proven a binary with a raised limiter so I could compare it against mine in IDA.
Unfortunately these are hard to find.

Sorry, no experience with that ECU version Sad
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« Reply #583 on: February 14, 2015, 11:27:59 PM »

I think I got it now.
Removed all of the current NMAX definitions, redefined the variable and verified them with IDA.
I think I have previously missed NMAXTO which seem to be a requirement.

Previously I thought NMAXTO should be only used for excess oil temps but apparently at least the lowest temperature column needs to be changed for the new limiter.
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« Reply #584 on: February 16, 2015, 04:37:32 AM »

LOL but no one has managed to raise the rev limiter Cheesy
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I have no logs because I have a boost gauge (makes things easier)
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