Pages: [1] 2 3
Author Topic: Protecting read out via OBD  (Read 22619 times)
NOTORIOUS VR
Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +58/-7
Offline Offline

Posts: 1056


« on: October 21, 2011, 07:44:26 AM »

So as far as I understand it there is a way to prevent reading out the tune via OBD.  Y"es I know you can still read it out via boot mode, but I think it would be nice to be able to "lock" in and make it more difficult for someone to just read out.

Has anyone figured out how to do this?

Logged

SCHNELL ENGINEERING BLOG ·  STANDALONE ECUS · TUNING · DYNO · WIRING · PARTS · VEMS
Google Talk: NOTORIOUS.VR
n00bs start here: http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning
RaraK
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +58/-2
Offline Offline

Posts: 539


« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 10:49:37 AM »

yes and no.

just obd read you can use "ecusafe" which just turns of obd read for SOME tools, not all.  You could also change the security string or seed key(havent tested this) as well.  which will prevent a read.

add no read into the file to block some tools as well.

unfortunately, official tools seem to get blocked by these methods, some clone tools have this bypassed  Roll Eyes

Logged
NOTORIOUS VR
Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +58/-7
Offline Offline

Posts: 1056


« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 11:59:13 AM »

Wouldn't changing the seed key also prevent writing?
Logged

SCHNELL ENGINEERING BLOG ·  STANDALONE ECUS · TUNING · DYNO · WIRING · PARTS · VEMS
Google Talk: NOTORIOUS.VR
n00bs start here: http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning
judeisnotobscure
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +38/-10
Offline Offline

Posts: 379


« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 12:30:30 PM »

on mbox, change 088cb from 0f to 00

once u do this it can't be undone on the file as far as i can tell so save as... i did it once and had to use boot mode to make revisions even after changing it back. I probably couldn't write one from scratch though, so idk what to do now. lol  (sarcasm)
« Last Edit: October 21, 2011, 01:52:38 PM by judeisnotobscure » Logged

I have a b5 s4
but i just want to dance.
NOTORIOUS VR
Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +58/-7
Offline Offline

Posts: 1056


« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 12:43:33 PM »

thanks!

what do you mean it can't be undone?  you can't change 088cb from 00 back to OF?
Logged

SCHNELL ENGINEERING BLOG ·  STANDALONE ECUS · TUNING · DYNO · WIRING · PARTS · VEMS
Google Talk: NOTORIOUS.VR
n00bs start here: http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning
judeisnotobscure
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +38/-10
Offline Offline

Posts: 379


« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 12:46:54 PM »

i changed it back to 0f and flashed the new file via boot mode it didn't seem to matter.
flashed a stock file and got obd read write back.  flashed file revised back from obd read rite off to on and no dice.
let me know if you get different results.
Logged

I have a b5 s4
but i just want to dance.
phila_dot
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +173/-11
Offline Offline

Posts: 1709


« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 12:56:54 PM »

Can you still connect with VCDS?

Do you know the name of the codeword or byte at that location?
Logged
judeisnotobscure
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +38/-10
Offline Offline

Posts: 379


« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 01:06:03 PM »

yes, you can connect with vcds still.
I don' know the codeword though
change from 0f to 00
Logged

I have a b5 s4
but i just want to dance.
NOTORIOUS VR
Administrator
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +58/-7
Offline Offline

Posts: 1056


« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2011, 01:36:19 PM »

I'll update when I try it for sure.

Thanks again!
Logged

SCHNELL ENGINEERING BLOG ·  STANDALONE ECUS · TUNING · DYNO · WIRING · PARTS · VEMS
Google Talk: NOTORIOUS.VR
n00bs start here: http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning
Gonzo
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +21/-30
Offline Offline

Posts: 483


« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2011, 04:03:22 PM »

I'm glad its working for you Josh  Tongue

Its not a codeword. Its a hack.

Not sure why NVR wants to do this though. Shouldn't all files be free?  Tongue Tongue
Logged
judeisnotobscure
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +38/-10
Offline Offline

Posts: 379


« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2011, 04:27:11 PM »

yup it works great... except you can't turn it off... useful for sure though.  Wink
Logged

I have a b5 s4
but i just want to dance.
Gonzo
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +21/-30
Offline Offline

Posts: 483


« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2011, 04:32:22 PM »

 Wink
Logged
phila_dot
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +173/-11
Offline Offline

Posts: 1709


« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2011, 04:49:00 PM »

Just to confirm, writing over OBD is still possible?
Logged
judeisnotobscure
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +38/-10
Offline Offline

Posts: 379


« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2011, 04:49:52 PM »

no, blocks read and write... u must write via bootmode.
Logged

I have a b5 s4
but i just want to dance.
Gonzo
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +21/-30
Offline Offline

Posts: 483


« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2011, 05:22:23 PM »

No, josh is wrong. Only read is protected.

Write is fine. I never block off writing on my files.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Page created in 0.019 seconds with 18 queries. (Pretty URLs adds 0s, 0q)