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« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2017, 02:07:47 PM »

Fixed a bug for contrast
Made grid control better for copy/paste and editing a selection.
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« Reply #91 on: August 06, 2017, 04:11:55 PM »

gah, and one more multi-threading bug, caused the grid to load up differently in some cases.
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« Reply #92 on: August 07, 2017, 11:39:20 AM »

another question...

is only possible to copy a  single cell at a time, at least that's what happening with me, it would be better if was possible to copy the whole table
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« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2017, 12:01:41 PM »

It was always possible to copy the entire table to paste into ols.   Perhaps it's not an friendly with tunerpro, if that's what you are using.   TunerPro has some issues with copy pasting normal table formats.  If you are using tunerpro, the trick that I used back in the day when I used that program.... copy from source, paste into excel/open office, copy again, paste into TunerPro.

Regardless of that, with the last update I made those grids more copy/paste-able within the program itself.
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« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2017, 12:40:35 PM »

ok, so its my problem, as I can only copy single cell

if I select all cells and right click, nothing,

nevermind, ctrl+c works fine...  Tongue
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« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2017, 12:45:42 PM »

right mouse clicks are for the weak     Tongue
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« Reply #96 on: August 08, 2017, 05:41:21 AM »

Since someone had this problem, I should mention this.

The tool looks in the specified folder for all .csv files.   If your file does not have the .csv extension, it will not detect it.
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« Reply #97 on: August 27, 2017, 02:38:02 AM »

I've been trying to dial in the PID with this with my 0.9bar external wastegates and things are running
okay but there is something that I can't get rid of. I've a good amount of bump in wgdc on spoolup and
then of course it shoots back to 95% because actual is not meeting requested and then I think I will
have to do a run at 95% duty as well (only did up to 80) because my 95% KFLDRL column is too low
for reaching requested.
What do you guys think?

Thanks

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« Reply #98 on: August 27, 2017, 05:58:01 AM »

i think it might be the derivative term being to aggressive?
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« Reply #99 on: August 27, 2017, 06:00:10 AM »

i think it might be the derivative term being to aggressive?


That, also your map is useless below 3000 rpm.
So just start the RPM axis at 2500 or 3000 and go in 250 rpm increments.
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« Reply #100 on: August 27, 2017, 06:20:14 AM »

I would also shift DIMX so that your 95 column untouched.  Get the control in the middle of the map instead of way at the bottom right.
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« Reply #101 on: August 27, 2017, 08:58:09 AM »

Thanks for the input guys, I have moved the rpm axis and also changed the dc axis
to include 90 as well, however I guess it would be better to have something like
0 25 50 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95. I've also halved KFLDRQ2 and I'm going to test
tomorrow. Here is what the current DRL looks like:



SB_GLI: What do you mean by shifting DIMX? Having 95 as the last column and shifting everything else to the left?

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« Reply #102 on: August 27, 2017, 06:11:51 PM »

You want to increase the values of the DIMX pressure axis.

Please post your logs.
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« Reply #103 on: August 28, 2017, 06:45:25 AM »

Doing anything with KFDRQ2 does not really affect the bump, so obviously
I have no idea what's happening Sad
Raising the last column of KFLDRL by hand about 10% makes upper rpm ranges
a bit happier but still not perfect, I don't think that in 3rd gear I can produce much
more boost.




I've had to upload the files to my server because the forum was
not happy about them today...

Current log with that Q2: http://nerd.hu/tmp/20170828T145028.log
Runs: http://nerd.hu/tmp/pid.tgz

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« Reply #104 on: August 28, 2017, 07:24:55 AM »

Your KFLDIMX axis:  Assume this a 5120?  I don't see any pressure above the map limit in your logs so I am not sure.

I was suggesting that you increase the KFLDIMX pressure axis in the tool so that you leave the 95 column as 95.

Since 0 % DC is around 1bar for you, I would suggest coming up with a completely new KFLDIMX axis.

Try this axis and generate your data from it:

0, 500, 1000, 1250, 1500, 1750, 2000, 2250

FWIW, I wasn't able to make the output from the tool work "as is" either.  I ended up having to increase the KFLDIMX access by like 10% after the data was generated (in ols/tunerpro) to get my boost on the money.

Not that this will matter, but you might want to smooth out your DRL where the calculated data ends.   you have 40's in the 40 column, but 20s in the 50 column.  40 should be less than what you have in 50.
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