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ThomasHH
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2022, 07:16:24 AM »

130b specified rail on 175b valve and car is stalling/jerking (can send video), swap to rs4 valve and works perfect. 

I think it is more than clear what the problem is. Find a car with a working 175b valve and change it for a test...
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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2022, 10:07:57 AM »

Mk5gt: can you elaborate more detailed on this please? Its it for roller conversion or OEM? I never seen loose lobe on camshaft, but maybe i did not look on some particular detail.

It does not matter which pump u are using.(roller or oem)

The lobe (with the 3 edges) in the intake cam rotates within the camshaft. This means that it loses its timing in collaboration with the pump. You must take the intake camshaft out, then pull the pump lobe out. Reposition it correctly and if u like weld it on the camshaft.
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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2022, 12:53:11 PM »

It does not matter which pump u are using.(roller or oem)

The lobe (with the 3 edges) in the intake cam rotates within the camshaft. This means that it loses its timing in collaboration with the pump. You must take the intake camshaft out, then pull the pump lobe out. Reposition it correctly and if u like weld it on the camshaft.


Hm, do you have some pictures and how is possible to find reference position ?
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2022, 01:37:11 AM »

Hm, do you have some pictures and how is possible to find reference position ?

IM also very curious about this. My intake cam has like maybe 20 000 kilometers
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2022, 02:05:22 AM »

In the images below u can see the cam lobe and its alignment.

In some 2.0tfsi engines the lobe is integrated with the camshaft.
In that case it is impossible to lose its timing.
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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2023, 08:31:55 AM »

Since we were not able to fix issue with fueling with 175b valves and rs3 injectors i was running on 140b with lower boost (around 410 hp) cuz we lacked fuel.
Few tuners spent days trying to figure this out and our guess is that RS3 injectors are not designed to work with pressures above 140b.

Now im trying new injectors which according to seller can take up to 240b and with 170b rail pressure they will be enough for 550-600 hp.
Again we face issue... Rail goes up like crazy and all 4 cylinders missfire the second 140b is achieved. I cant even rev car on idle.
My guess is again the moment we get to 140b injectors close and its reason for crazy rail.
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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2023, 01:22:06 PM »

i make almost same setup
rs3 inj bigger cam lobe with roller
175bar prv

never any problem high rpm misfire  or jerking
onyl little over pressure because i use AKS prv and i think faulty not opened

what kind of position fitted the injector ?

but i found one injector test with continental s5 or s4 injector and this injector above 130  bar less flow rate
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« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2023, 01:33:43 PM »

its here the pcitures
less over 100bar
i dont no real or not
but rs3 injector desinged same
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« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2023, 03:38:17 PM »

i make almost same setup
rs3 inj bigger cam lobe with roller
175bar prv

never any problem high rpm misfire  or jerking
onyl little over pressure because i use AKS prv and i think faulty not opened

what kind of position fitted the injector ?

but i found one injector test with continental s5 or s4 injector and this injector above 130  bar less flow rate

I had repositioned RS3 injectors like they are in RS3. Generally my car runs now better on 4.0 tfsi injectors vs RS3 i mean no more black smoke or gas smell, nice cold start etc. but i cant even rev on neutral cuz all cylinders will missfire and rpms stops.
You can see on the logs that when you try to WOT it will stall around 2,5-2,7 rpm, lambda will go to 1.99 and rail pressure 20b over the commanded pressure. I dont know if its my car or we just cant calibrate injectors...
Im trying to get it running cuz i have big turbo (G30-770) setup ready to fit but if i cant get fuel there is no point in changing turbo. If i manage to make it work then i can change turbo and get it tuner properly and im happy to pay for that
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