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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2017, 07:45:08 AM »
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rl_w is supposed to stay the same.
agree, when I switched on my MKIV, there was no diff in load. The base file you are using just might not be 100%. |
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2017, 08:53:15 AM »
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0A 51 to 85 28 at 0x50926.
At least I noticed that different between my RS6 5120 conversion and whatever public M-box 5120 file.
That's "10.13 [hPa/%]" multiplier on page 289 of FR.
Thanks for the hint, nub. I didn't use a base 5120, rather used my tuned file (which I was happy with, but riding the map limit), and made all the changes myself based on what I've read on here. I did not have those values you mentioned changed in my file. Thanks also for verifying rl should not have changed, wasn't sure on that. |
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2017, 02:26:26 PM »
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rl_w is still high after changing those values. I also wanted to add, changing those values nubcake suggested created a big dead spot when getting back on the gas after a shift. Maybe this can clue me in to where the issue is? I didn't notice these ASM changes in any of the other 5120 files I've seen posted on here (Nyet's and Britishturbo's). Going to go through the file again, to see if I can spot anything.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2017, 06:41:17 PM »
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rl_w is still high after changing those values. Going to go through the file again.
Double-check KFPRG/URL and asm divisions/multiplications. Here's the abstract of my old 5120 cheat sheet. Expected result and var name. It could be partially inaccurate, but hopefully will be of some help. EDIT: or just try the public 5120 file, possibly with that fix I mentioned.  | half: | same: | double: | | fvisrm_w | fho_w | psrlro_w | | plgrus_w | fpvdkds_w | fupsrl_w | | plsol | pspvds_w | | plsol_w | pspvdb_w | | pirg_w | pspvdk_w | | pirgro_w | psspvdk_w | | ps_w | vpsspls_w | | psfg_w | vpsspu_w | | pssol_w | fpvdkds | | pu | pspu | | pu_w | ftsr | | pus_w | fbakl_w | | pvdk | frhodkr_w | | pvdk_w | psspvdkb_w | | pvdkds | psspvdkd_w | | pvdkds_w | vpssplg_w | | pvdkdsl_w | fpvdkdsl_w | | pvdks_w | | pvdksf_w | | pbr_w | | pbrint_w | | pdpld_w | | plgru_w | | plgruo_w | | plgruso_w | | plmaxa_w | | psmp_w | | psmx_w | | psp_w | | pspmx_w | | pukor_w | | pukorf_w | | pumean_w | | pvdkmx_w | | pvdkr_w | | dpus_w | | pte_w | | pterw_w |
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2017, 07:25:44 PM »
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Thanks for the help, nubcake. Are these the public files you speak of? http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3027.msg29815#msg29815I've compared them to mine, and they are the same except for the values you change for different map sensors. I'm using a 4 bar. |
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2017, 08:57:21 PM »
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Guys, please let me know if you find errors in that file!
Really, I'd super lots appreciate it.
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2017, 09:29:42 PM »
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Can someone say what maps need to be changed, and their values when using a 4 bar sensor (03K 906 051)? Also, are there any asm changes required?
DSLGRAD
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2017, 10:09:47 PM »
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Guys, please let me know if you find errors in that file!
Really, I'd super lots appreciate it.
.kp I have - DSLGRAD 0.015625*eprom .kp you posted for the 5120 changes - DSLGRAD 0.031250*eprom but DSLGRAD is also changed between the stock map, and 3 bar file. I thought maybe change the factor or the value, but not both. ? |
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2017, 10:44:26 PM »
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From the Manifold air pressure:Rescale project DSLGRAD - Divide by 2 DSLOFS - Divide by 2 but DSLGRAD (stock M box) 541 DSLGRAD (Nyet' 3 bar 5120) 329 DSLOFS (stock) -16.40 DSLOFS (Nyet 3 bar 5120) -31.75 Is this because he's using a 3 bar sensor in that file? If so, it doesn't seem like the math adds up. It's also late, and I'm exhausted.  |
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2017, 11:08:04 PM »
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Then going by this, I get a different number. Do you use DSLGRAD calculated from the sensor (894.091) and then divide that by 2? Or just input DSLGRAD directly.
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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2017, 11:41:33 PM »
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Then going by this, I get a different number. Do you use DSLGRAD calculated from the sensor (894.091) and then divide that by 2? Or just input DSLGRAD directly.
If you have the full kp (not the one in the thread linked above), input the calculated DSLGRAD directly IN THE 5120 FOLDER of that kp: http://files.s4wiki.com/defs/8D0907551M-20130729.zipOutside of that folder, the DSLGRAD should be half of that (there are two DSLGRADs/DSLOFSs maps in that kp. the xdf linked in the other post/thread above only has a few maps). |
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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2017, 12:11:00 AM »
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Thanks, Nyet. I don't see a 5120 folder in that .kp though?
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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2017, 01:30:16 AM »
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I'm not sure if this will be any help to you guys but I've attached the .xdf I used to convert my 1.8t to 5120.
There's a folder 5120 with a full list of variables I changed with division/multiplication in the description, serves as a list if nothing else.
Hope it helps (apologies if I'm just cluttering).
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2017, 01:52:21 AM »
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To be sure about correct numbers in dslgrad I would set the values to stock (check factor), change them according to the map sensor and then divide by 2. Also, I have found it to be very easy to change the wrong values if you work from hex. In a disassembled file you can see much better what you are doing, not all divisions are supposed to be changed. Don't know if you copied from hex or worked from a disassembled file, but its worth the check Here is my asm changes for a working 1.8t wideband file: (also tested on a narrowband ecu, works fine) mov r4, #654Dh < #32A6h
mov r5, fkmsdk_w
mulu r5, r4
(division pvdk_w #1)
Next section:
Mov r4, #654Dh < #32A6h
Mov r2, fpvdk_w
Mulu r2, r4
(division pvdk_w #2)
Next:
Mov r4, pvdkdsl_w
Mov r2, #287h < #50Eh
Mulu r4, r2
(division fpvdkds #1)
Next:
Mov r4, pvdkdsl_w
Mov r2, #287h < #50Eh
Mulu r4, r2
(division fpvdkds #2)
Next:
Mov r8, pus_w
Mov r4, pus_w
Mov r2, #287h < #50Eh
Mulu r4, r2
(division fho_w)
Last:
Mov [r0+2], r4
Mov [r0+4], r5
Mov r3, #654Dh < #32A6h
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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2017, 06:55:20 AM »
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Thanks for the help, everybody. I'm going with DSLGRAD calculated from the spec sheet/wiki and dividing by 2. Should be able to test shortly. I've collected 4-5 "4 bar 5120" files on here and every one of them has different values for DSLGRAD and DSLOFS. I wonder if these other folks just end up tuning around it. |
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