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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2017, 10:48:10 AM »

Thanks for the help, everybody. I'm going with DSLGRAD calculated from the spec sheet/wiki and dividing by 2. Should be able to test shortly. I've collected 4-5 "4 bar 5120" files on here and every one of them has different values for DSLGRAD and DSLOFS. Smiley I wonder if these other folks just end up tuning around it.

When referring to "tuning around it" I was speaking about the load/boost and boost/load oddities you were seeing, NOT something strange about DSLOFS/DSLGRAD, which should always be the same for a given map sensor.

I would prefer we get together and try to figure out what went wrong with those other files' DSLOFS/DSLGRAD..
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« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2017, 10:49:01 AM »

Thanks, Nyet. I don't see a 5120 folder in that .kp though?

Sorry, maybe I posted the wrong one.. I will dig around my laptop next time I get a chance.
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« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2017, 11:23:34 AM »

No problem, thanks Nyet. I understand what you meant. Actually, after doing the 5120 the only thing that tipped me off, was the car was running 2 points richer than before (wideband installed). I didn't (knowingly) change anything fuel/ boost pid related, so logged it, and noticed rl_w, and here we are. Car felt/ drove the same except for being sluggish because rich. Wondering why the asm nub suggested makes it fall on it's face getting back on the gas after a gear change. I've flashed it back and forth trying it with all the other changes, and with the nub asm modified, always the same result.
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« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2017, 11:47:34 AM »

try this..
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« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2017, 12:09:24 PM »

try this..

Still no folder labeled "5120" in that .kp

Am I missing something?  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2017, 12:10:30 PM »

yea ill have to check my laptop Sad
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« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2017, 12:18:54 PM »

maybe this one
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« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2017, 12:20:11 PM »

Yes, It's there now. Thanks!
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« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2017, 01:37:27 PM »

KFLDRQ2 and KFDLULS axis are missing in that xdf, are they not necessary?

and KFLDRQ2 table is divided by 2, is it correct?
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« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2017, 01:40:48 PM »

KFLDRQ2 and KFDLULS axis are missing in that xdf, are they not necessary?

I will take a look, time permitting. The issue is that in winols, you can edit the axis w/o a separate axis def, whereas tunerpro you cannot, i think?

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and KFLDRQ2 table is divided by 2, is it correct?

It should be, yes, if you are talking about the values (not the axis)

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« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2017, 06:18:31 PM »

The issue is that in winols, you can edit the axis w/o a separate axis def, whereas tunerpro you cannot, i think?

Yep.  One of the biggest reasons to ditch tunerpro and use winols.
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« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2017, 11:30:09 PM »

Some things I'm unsure about.

1. In post #414 of the 5120 thread, Nyet states

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Two more divisions, one at 0x5193E another at 0x51978, 16 bit, change 0x0287 (647) to 0x050E (1294)

For the last 2 address' the bytes are reversed in the stock binary (0x8702, 0x0E05). Is this because they are 16bit? typo? Just making sure the changes are correct. I'm accustomed to address' being listed in the order they appear in the binary, but that means nothing. Smiley

2.I think bische? states again in the 5120 thread :

KFURL + KFPRG to tune your ps_w, KISRM to tune the ps_w I component. All of them needs to be halfed in a 5120 hack.

Yet in all the 5120 hacked files I've used for reference, KFURL is doubled. Seems there was some debate on these variables.

Can someone verify address and factors for 551M 0002
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2017, 10:15:48 AM »

Replied in PM, but once again for the sake of completeness: doubling of KFURL is correct.
KISRM should be left untouched if the assembly hack I mentioned above is implemented. If not - you can get away by halving KISRM instead. Do only one of those!

For the last 2 address' the bytes are reversed in the stock binary (0x8702, 0x0E05). Is this because they are 16bit? typo? Just making sure the changes are correct. I'm accustomed to address' being listed in the order they appear in the binary, but that means nothing. Smiley

C167 uses LoHi for word (16 bit) variables, you can't just look at two 8 bit values in hex and then combine them to make 16 bit, the order has to be reversed.
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« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2017, 10:23:09 AM »

KISRM should be left untouched if the assembly hack I mentioned above is implemented. If not - you can get away by halving KISRM instead. Do only one of those!

Thanks for the response, nub. It sounds like the hack is a better solution than KISRM? I'll at least try that today, and log AFR to see if the dead spot remains, and if so, why.
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« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2017, 10:31:01 AM »

It sounds like the hack is a better solution than KISRM?

Should be essentially the same as one is getting multiplied by the other. Asm looks neater to me as I'm changing the "hpa constant". Smiley
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