mikers4
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« on: February 22, 2018, 03:31:36 PM »
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What are these units like that are cloned “red PCB” ?
I want to read/write EDC17 Porsche Cayenne/Macan
And MED9 Audi.
Thanks in advance.
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k0mpresd
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 03:36:35 PM »
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you want to work on 40.000eu car but you want to use a 100eu china scrap clone tool?
ok then.
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mikers4
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 03:55:29 PM »
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you want to work on 40.000eu car but you want to use a 100eu china scrap clone tool?
ok then.
I was asking a question..? I have a MPPS cable that I have used reliably on ME7 and not had any fault. I have EECLIP for reading SOIC for IMMO on ME7 am registered winols customer with genuine OLS300... I don’t mind spending money on tooling but just wanted feedback. Mike |
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prj
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 04:17:21 PM »
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If you do anything professionally you should not be using cloned tools.
There is no excuse that makes it right.
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mikers4
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 04:34:43 PM »
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So best tools for those two ECU’s I listed ?
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prj
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 04:42:26 PM »
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Kess, New Genius, CMDFlash in no particular order.
I am not sure anything will flash the older K-Line Cayenne over the port though, need bootloader for that.
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k0mpresd
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2018, 12:16:03 AM »
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Kess, New Genius, CMDFlash in no particular order.
mpps + tpsg works as well. |
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prj
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2018, 06:21:26 AM »
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mpps + tpsg works as well.
Over the port? |
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k0mpresd
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2018, 08:30:21 AM »
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Over the port?
no, not port. bsl for mpps porsche medc17. |
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prj
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 04:01:30 PM »
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no, not port. bsl for mpps porsche medc17.
CMD does those over the port, as do genius/kess. You should never have to pull a MEDC17 ECU except the K-line EDC17CP04/CP14 found in the old body facelifted cayenne. |
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superglitch
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2018, 10:51:31 PM »
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CMD w/ Tricore Boot and BMW PWD Read should be able to do everything you need, either over port or boot.
I would stay far away from Alientech products, have legit versions and barely ever use them because of reliability.
But in the future #bflashmasterrace
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k0mpresd
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2018, 01:51:28 AM »
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CMD does those over the port, as do genius/kess.
You should never have to pull a MEDC17 ECU except the K-line EDC17CP04/CP14 found in the old body facelifted cayenne.
i was a bit disappointed that phil would not add support for porsche 17.1.6 for obd. checking cmd, it is listed, "3.6 VR6 DFI 220KW CGRA BOSCH-MED17 TC1797 CAN". |
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prj
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2018, 10:06:10 AM »
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CMD w/ Tricore Boot and BMW PWD Read should be able to do everything you need, either over port or boot.
I would stay far away from Alientech products, have legit versions and barely ever use them because of reliability.
But in the future #bflashmasterrace
I have dimsport tools and zero reliability issues. Never had a checksum issue for example. CMDFlash has constantly issues with checksums, on Siemens, on MEVD17 and so on. Better always sum with OLS to be safe. They do fix it quite quickly when you give them file examples, but it's just something I don't really want to care about. MED17.1.6 with CMD is no problem over OBD, I've personally done it multiple times. |
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cherry
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2018, 12:35:36 PM »
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Old K-line EDC17, at least Phaeton + Touareg, is supported from MPPS and Kess.
Edit: But Kess only old untill TP7, and seems MPPS is only tested for EDC17CP14. But seems also for obd-unlock. MPPS release notes are sometimes a little bit short.
But for sure not i´m not talking about clone MPPS!
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prj
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2018, 09:17:33 PM »
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I don't think any tool does K-Line with TPROT.
Kess and MPPS can both write it, but you need to bootmode unlock it first. My Phaeton has a K-line EDC17CP04 and Genius and Kess both write it, but it's an older update version without TPROT, with TPROT it won't boot after write, as they don't have RSA bypass done.
I don't own MPPS though, so maybe they implemented the bypass recently.
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