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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 08:16:12 AM »

I already told what to do earlier. You have to disable monitor2.
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 08:19:41 AM »

I already told what to do earlier. You have to disable monitor2.

That's what I am doing right now, but I would like to understand the root cause of the problem, I know that there is a workaround for this but I find it strange that 90% of the tuned cars out there don't produce this DTC while the others do, some even mention that it is more common on cars manufactured in 2000, which sounds bullsh** but still Smiley
I also would like to know what can actually go wrong if the ECU is not going into limp mode because monitoring is disabled.

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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2012, 09:06:36 AM »

That's what I am doing right now, but I would like to understand the root cause of the problem, I know that there is a workaround for this but I find it strange that 90% of the tuned cars out there don't produce this DTC while the others do, some even mention that it is more common on cars manufactured in 2000, which sounds bullsh** but still Smiley
I also would like to know what can actually go wrong if the ECU is not going into limp mode because monitoring is disabled.

Thanks

Ok well that partly-bricked my ECU. Car starts up, but shuts down about 5 seconds later while the idle is dropping up and down. The NefMoto flasher can't connect anymore nor VAG-COM and the EPC light is blinking.
I've doubled checked the file I flashed the ME7Checker says it's OK! I guess I will have to bench flash it ..
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2012, 10:25:38 AM »

I already told what to do earlier. You have to disable monitor2.

masterj, can you please look at the file which flashed fine but prevents re-flashing and causes EPC blinking?
it is available at http://blade2k.humppa.hu/failed_torque_disable.bin
I would love to know what broke it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2012, 05:39:54 AM »

Ok the ECU is live again after bench-flashing, now i gotta figure out what's the problem with the file Sad
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2012, 08:44:35 AM »

Ok the ECU is live again after bench-flashing, now i gotta figure out what's the problem with the file Sad

Are you 100% sure that your map definitions are correct?
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2012, 08:46:40 AM »

I am using nyet's XDF so I assume they are correct.
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2012, 08:49:27 AM »

I am using nyet's XDF so I assume they are correct.

Give me original file bin I'll try to help you... P.S> write addresses of kfmiop/kfmirl and all the others that I wrote to edit... (I'm using winols so I can't open xdf)
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2012, 08:56:59 AM »

Give me original file bin I'll try to help you... P.S> write addresses of kfmiop/kfmirl and all the others that I wrote to edit... (I'm using winols so I can't open xdf)

Okay so here are the addresses:

KFMIZUFIL @ 0x11599
KFMIZUOF @ 0x11619
KFMIZUNS @ 0x115D9
KFMI_UM @ 0x14098
KFMPNS_UM @ 0x141A9
KFMDZOF_UM @ 0x14129
KFMPED_UM @ 0x14169

The original bin is available here: http://blade2k.humppa.hu/8D0907551M_dekaIV.bin

The failed bin file is: http://blade2k.humppa.hu/failed_torque_disable.bin

This way you can probably compare it.

Thank you!
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2012, 08:59:43 AM »

Oh btw on the original file which is based on berttos' tune KFMIZUFIL is FF all the way already.
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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2012, 09:16:04 AM »

That's what I am doing right now, but I would like to understand the root cause of the problem, I know that there is a workaround for this but I find it strange that 90% of the tuned cars out there don't produce this DTC while the others do, some even mention that it is more common on cars manufactured in 2000, which sounds bullsh** but still Smiley
I also would like to know what can actually go wrong if the ECU is not going into limp mode because monitoring is disabled.

Thanks

Exactly. I'm not a fan of doing all the 00 0xff crap people are just blindly telling you to do.. but it is all you can do unless you are willing to do a bit of legwork with ME7L and the FR....

For example, like I did here...

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1905.0
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2012, 09:19:26 AM »

Exactly. I'm not a fan of doing all the 00 0xff crap people are just blindly telling you to do.. but it is all you can do unless you are willing to do a bit of legwork with ME7L and the FR....

For example, like I did here...

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1905.0

Sure, once I get ME7L working because I can't get it to connect to my ECU with none of the connection methods it supports.
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2012, 09:25:09 AM »

Ok the ECU is live again after bench-flashing, now i gotta figure out what's the problem with the file Sad

The problem is you are modifying maps outside of what your tool will checksum, it is likely one of the *****_UM maps. This checksum failure causes the ECU to run and cycle the throttle body, with out the ability to be reflashed.
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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2012, 09:28:50 AM »

try it
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2012, 09:31:46 AM »

The problem is you are modifying maps outside of what your tool will checksum, it is likely one of the *****_UM maps. This checksum failure causes the ECU to run and cycle the throttle body, with out the ability to be reflashed.

Oh that makes sense, so I guess the MTX tuner-pro checksum plugin cannot handle it. I guess I should contact them so that they can look into the issue.
I will try your file as soon my galetto cable arrives so I can revive the ECU if needed. Is it going to be possible to modify your file (other maps than the *_UM ones) safely without freaking out the ECU again with a wrong checksum?

Thanks
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